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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,436

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,803
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    The Democratic Hoax is deadly yo.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,126
    I thought Cain was kind of a simpleton but he would have been a much better president than tRump.  I have no doubt about that.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    The Democratic Hoax is deadly yo.
    Hall of Fame tweet right there.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,803
    Gern Blansten said:
    I thought Cain was kind of a simpleton but he would have been a much better president than tRump.  I have no doubt about that.
    Low bar
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  • Matts3221
    Matts3221 Posts: 658

    Every death is sad , Herman Cain constantly said  mask don't work , this was a hoax , numbers were inflated to hurt trump ect ect.

    Went out with out a mask to large gatherings including the Trump Rally last month in OK.

    It is sad that he passed but I don't have a ton of sympathy on this one. My hope is maybe just maybe this will get some others on the trump end to wear masks.


  • static111
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    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    Scio me nihil scire

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  • nicknyr15
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    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,605
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
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    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
  • static111
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    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    With rights come responsibilities. Actions have consequences. Object lessons are important. If this particular object lesson helps some covidiots see that the virus is more than a democratic hoax, then that is a good thing. I am not celebrating death, but I am also not surprised or anguished that a man's reckless behavior had dire consequences. And the problem with this particular object lesson is that he was an active tweeter and opponent of taking proper precautions, and he influenced a large number of people. Those are the people that have hopefully learned something from this. 
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  • Merkin Baller
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    hedonist said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I think Mr. Cain would fit in this category, like some who used to post here, correct? Never mind the 151,000+ US covid deaths, Mr. Cain being one of them.

    What a tremendous burden it must be for you to still be defending President Trump. You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

    Trump remembers how you ran interference for him when he claimed unlimited powers under Article II of the Constitution, so he thinks you will stay quiet. Remember your silence after Charlottesville? You eventually mustered the nerve to claim Trump never preached moral equivalence between torch-carrying Nazis and protesters. How unthoughtful it was of David Duke to expose you by praising the president’s putrid performance and thanking Trump for his “honesty and courage to tell the truth.” The former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard even bragged to reporters that Charlottesville represented a “turning point” for white nationalism. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump,” Duke proclaimed. “That’s why we voted for [him].”

    Ouch. That one had to sting, but you kept on defending Donald.

    If you had a political soul after that shameful stunt, the Cold Warrior in you would have been as sickened by Trump’s retreat from Germany as U.S. strategists were over his ceding of Syria to Vladimir Putin, handing Moscow a foothold in the Middle East for the first time since 1973. No country was a closer ally during the Cold War than West Germany, and no nation is more critical to Europe’s future now than a unified Germany. Undermining the U.S.-German alliance because of an ignorant misunderstanding of NATO’s dues structure undermines the historic work that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush completed throughout the Cold War’s final years.

    But there you are, silently supporting a demagogue who sits by while intelligence suggests Russia’s leader put bounties on the heads of young American troops. Trump instead plays Putin’s apologist by declaring the United States equally guilty.

    “Well, we supplied weapons when they were fighting Russia, too,” Trump said of our efforts to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion some 40 years ago.

    Did any part of you cringe when Trump leaned once again on the crutch of moral equivalency, ignoring the glaring fact that the U.S.S.R. was America’s sworn enemy during our “twilight struggle” against communism? Maybe not. Maybe Trump has you figured out and knows what a frightened political soul you are, and remembers that you remained mute when he defended Putin’s killing of journalists and political rivals almost five years ago. “Our country does plenty of killing also,” candidate Trump told me when I repeatedly pressed him on “Morning Joe” to criticize Putin’s murderous ways. He wouldn’t then when the victims were Russian reporters, and he won’t now when the targets are young American heroes in uniform.

    I know Trump’s devotion to Putin deeply disturbs you, but somehow you swallow that bile and keep running cover for them both. How hard it must have been to keep all of that down when Trump’s foreign policy adviser, national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, political consultant and attorney general were all busted for lying to federal investigators or Congress about their contacts with Russians. But you still kept your head down and marched in a single formation behind Trump.

    When it was revealed that Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign was “sweeping and systematic,” you shrugged your shoulders. You later learned that Russian nationals with connections to the Kremlin promised Trump’s family dirt on Hillary Clinton, and that they were excited to learn it was part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” You remained motionless, numb to it all, when federal investigators later revealed that Russia’s GRU began hacking Clinton-related email accounts hours after Trump announced this: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

    By this time, you began mindlessly regurgitating the former reality TV host’s propaganda about the “Russian hoax,” and hoped Americans would be stupid enough to ignore the mountains of damning evidence against Trump. Your singular focus turned to the Steele dossier’s most lurid tales, and you believed then, and now, that Christopher Steele’s fantastical claims could erase a multitude of Trump’s sins. You repeated the lies of Attorney General William P. Barr and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey O. Graham when they falsely claimed the FBI’s investigation began with Steele’s dossier. And you kept repeating this idiotic defense even after it became painfully evident that Trump’s team welcomed Russia’s interference in American democracy and then tried to cover it up. You still refuse to criticize the Trump team’s use of material stolen by Russia during the last month of the campaign, just like you and your president continue turning a blind eye to any Russian bounties.

    None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will.

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  • bootlegger10
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    edited July 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.

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