RIP Herman Cain of Godfathers Pizza

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  • static111static111 Posts: 959
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 21,647
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
  • static111static111 Posts: 959
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,103
    With rights come responsibilities. Actions have consequences. Object lessons are important. If this particular object lesson helps some covidiots see that the virus is more than a democratic hoax, then that is a good thing. I am not celebrating death, but I am also not surprised or anguished that a man's reckless behavior had dire consequences. And the problem with this particular object lesson is that he was an active tweeter and opponent of taking proper precautions, and he influenced a large number of people. Those are the people that have hopefully learned something from this. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 8,361
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 24,516
    I think Mr. Cain would fit in this category, like some who used to post here, correct? Never mind the 151,000+ US covid deaths, Mr. Cain being one of them.

    What a tremendous burden it must be for you to still be defending President Trump. You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

    Trump remembers how you ran interference for him when he claimed unlimited powers under Article II of the Constitution, so he thinks you will stay quiet. Remember your silence after Charlottesville? You eventually mustered the nerve to claim Trump never preached moral equivalence between torch-carrying Nazis and protesters. How unthoughtful it was of David Duke to expose you by praising the president’s putrid performance and thanking Trump for his “honesty and courage to tell the truth.” The former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard even bragged to reporters that Charlottesville represented a “turning point” for white nationalism. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump,” Duke proclaimed. “That’s why we voted for [him].”

    Ouch. That one had to sting, but you kept on defending Donald.

    If you had a political soul after that shameful stunt, the Cold Warrior in you would have been as sickened by Trump’s retreat from Germany as U.S. strategists were over his ceding of Syria to Vladimir Putin, handing Moscow a foothold in the Middle East for the first time since 1973. No country was a closer ally during the Cold War than West Germany, and no nation is more critical to Europe’s future now than a unified Germany. Undermining the U.S.-German alliance because of an ignorant misunderstanding of NATO’s dues structure undermines the historic work that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush completed throughout the Cold War’s final years.

    But there you are, silently supporting a demagogue who sits by while intelligence suggests Russia’s leader put bounties on the heads of young American troops. Trump instead plays Putin’s apologist by declaring the United States equally guilty.

    “Well, we supplied weapons when they were fighting Russia, too,” Trump said of our efforts to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion some 40 years ago.

    Did any part of you cringe when Trump leaned once again on the crutch of moral equivalency, ignoring the glaring fact that the U.S.S.R. was America’s sworn enemy during our “twilight struggle” against communism? Maybe not. Maybe Trump has you figured out and knows what a frightened political soul you are, and remembers that you remained mute when he defended Putin’s killing of journalists and political rivals almost five years ago. “Our country does plenty of killing also,” candidate Trump told me when I repeatedly pressed him on “Morning Joe” to criticize Putin’s murderous ways. He wouldn’t then when the victims were Russian reporters, and he won’t now when the targets are young American heroes in uniform.

    I know Trump’s devotion to Putin deeply disturbs you, but somehow you swallow that bile and keep running cover for them both. How hard it must have been to keep all of that down when Trump’s foreign policy adviser, national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, political consultant and attorney general were all busted for lying to federal investigators or Congress about their contacts with Russians. But you still kept your head down and marched in a single formation behind Trump.

    When it was revealed that Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign was “sweeping and systematic,” you shrugged your shoulders. You later learned that Russian nationals with connections to the Kremlin promised Trump’s family dirt on Hillary Clinton, and that they were excited to learn it was part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” You remained motionless, numb to it all, when federal investigators later revealed that Russia’s GRU began hacking Clinton-related email accounts hours after Trump announced this: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

    By this time, you began mindlessly regurgitating the former reality TV host’s propaganda about the “Russian hoax,” and hoped Americans would be stupid enough to ignore the mountains of damning evidence against Trump. Your singular focus turned to the Steele dossier’s most lurid tales, and you believed then, and now, that Christopher Steele’s fantastical claims could erase a multitude of Trump’s sins. You repeated the lies of Attorney General William P. Barr and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey O. Graham when they falsely claimed the FBI’s investigation began with Steele’s dossier. And you kept repeating this idiotic defense even after it became painfully evident that Trump’s team welcomed Russia’s interference in American democracy and then tried to cover it up. You still refuse to criticize the Trump team’s use of material stolen by Russia during the last month of the campaign, just like you and your president continue turning a blind eye to any Russian bounties.

    None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will.

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 13,126
    edited July 31
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,289
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.

    Agreed.
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 1,867
    Another soul eaten
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 4,085
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.


    His denial of the virus that ended up killing him will forever be a part of his 'great American' story.


  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
    People who disrespect others by not wearing a mask or taking it seriously, will never take it seriously. No matter what. No matter who was in the White House. These people are assholes through and through. They’re everywhere. In every state , red or blue. It’s my opinion to take the high road. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,361
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
    People who disrespect others by not wearing a mask or taking it seriously, will never take it seriously. No matter what. No matter who was in the White House. These people are assholes through and through. They’re everywhere. In every state , red or blue. It’s my opinion to take the high road. 
    I guess I'm way more optimistic and believe that with reason people can be convinced to wear masks. No matter who they vote or have voted for.
  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 4,205
    His denial of the science was a sadly fatal mistake. :( The best thing we can hope to come out of it now is that others who shared his incorrect opinion will give that up and wear a damn mask, do social distancing, etc. It may save their lives and others' lives...and if more people start doing the right things, we could get out of this damn quarantine. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    Exactly ZERO people will wake up based on Herman Cain passing. They’ll blame democrats or his prior health problems. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    edited July 31
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
    People who disrespect others by not wearing a mask or taking it seriously, will never take it seriously. No matter what. No matter who was in the White House. These people are assholes through and through. They’re everywhere. In every state , red or blue. It’s my opinion to take the high road. 
    I guess I'm way more optimistic and believe that with reason people can be convinced to wear masks. No matter who they vote or have voted for.
    I wish man. I’m in NY. We “lucked out” by getting hit in the frigid winter months. I have no doubt that it would’ve been way worse if we were hit in summer because nobody would have stayed in. I still have to throw at least 1-2 people out of my store every day because of a mask. Even with me offering for free. Even in a state with over 30k deaths. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 14,197
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    Dude played with fire and got burned. No sympathy. How many people had he influenced  to do the same? 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 14,197
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Low brow to point out the facts of the situation? I don’t think so. His ideas and statements were dangerous. It needs to be shared so perhaps people that originally believed him would now think differently.

    Hiding the reality of the situation is bullshit.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    Dude played with fire and got burned. No sympathy. How many people had he influenced  to do the same? 
    I understand. Not asking for sympathy. Just feel that sometimes if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it at all. The headlines speak fir themselves. Again, just my feeling. 
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 21,647
    dignin said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
    I don’t disagree at all about the danger and responsibility factors. That some are foaming at the mouth with glee about his death makes me sick.

    I certainly don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Disappointing is all. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,361
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
    People who disrespect others by not wearing a mask or taking it seriously, will never take it seriously. No matter what. No matter who was in the White House. These people are assholes through and through. They’re everywhere. In every state , red or blue. It’s my opinion to take the high road. 
    I guess I'm way more optimistic and believe that with reason people can be convinced to wear masks. No matter who they vote or have voted for.
    I wish man. I’m in NY. We “lucked out” by getting hit in the frigid winter months. I have no doubt that it would’ve been way worse if we were hit in summer because nobody would have stayed in. I still have to throw at least 1-2 people out of my store every day because of a mask. Even with me offering for free. Even in a state with over 30k deaths. 
    That sucks man. Stay safe.
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,361
    hedonist said:
    dignin said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
    I don’t disagree at all about the danger and responsibility factors. That some are foaming at the mouth with glee about his death makes me sick.

    I certainly don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Disappointing is all. 
    Fair enough.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,865
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:

    Classy. 
    He said some pretty classy things for sure  

    another classy one

    And? Stooping to that level and pointing out a “gotcha” moment on a dead guy? I just think it’s unnecessary. 
    I see it as a cautionary tale about how an otherwise smart man can get pulled  so far into the newsmax hype world, that he would rather put his life at risk before admitting how wrong his and others handling of the seriousness of the pandemic was.  Guys like this and Gohmert down here in Texas would rather put the lives of themselves and those around them at risk(To own the libs) than admit that the virus is not a hoax. It’s hard to have sympathy for people whose actions put the rest of us at risk.
    Ok. I strongly disagree. Is this your version of owning the right? So both sides are the same? 
    How is this owning the right?  This is literally pointing out that the actions of a few science deniers are putting us all at risk.  Not owning anyone.  They are willing to die rather than admit they are wrong! Hopefully it will make some rethink their positions on masking up and washing their hands.  Not sure how libs are endangering people’s lives through the pandemic by denying the seriousness, so no both sides are not the same here.
    Whatever dude. If you can’t see how it’s lowbrow to post his past tweets after his death as a “told you so” then we’ll agree to disagree. 
    Time to wake up.  This is exactly the time to post these prior tweets.   

    Say I tweeted that I can fly for three weeks and then died after jumping off a building because I thought I could fly.  I would expect people to post my prior tweets after I died.

    This is a cautionary tail.  I don’t know Herman Cain personally.  But I do know that this man died from a virus he said was a hoax and has a following on Twitter that listens to him.

    We need to shine a light on greed and ignorance when we see it.
    People who disrespect others by not wearing a mask or taking it seriously, will never take it seriously. No matter what. No matter who was in the White House. These people are assholes through and through. They’re everywhere. In every state , red or blue. It’s my opinion to take the high road. 
    I guess I'm way more optimistic and believe that with reason people can be convinced to wear masks. No matter who they vote or have voted for.
    I wish man. I’m in NY. We “lucked out” by getting hit in the frigid winter months. I have no doubt that it would’ve been way worse if we were hit in summer because nobody would have stayed in. I still have to throw at least 1-2 people out of my store every day because of a mask. Even with me offering for free. Even in a state with over 30k deaths. 
    That sucks man. Stay safe.
    Thank you very much. You too 🤙🏼
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 23,407
    Matts3221 said:

    Every death is sad , Herman Cain constantly said  mask don't work , this was a hoax , numbers were inflated to hurt trump ect ect.

    Went out with out a mask to large gatherings including the Trump Rally last month in OK.

    It is sad that he passed but I don't have a ton of sympathy on this one. My hope is maybe just maybe this will get some others on the trump end to wear masks.


    Agreed and how many other people did he infect? By his idiotic stance..
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 2,570
    hedonist said:
    dignin said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
    I don’t disagree at all about the danger and responsibility factors. That some are foaming at the mouth with glee about his death makes me sick.

    I certainly don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Disappointing is all. 
    I actually don't feel like I see that much glee.  Yeah, there'll always be jerks and I've seen a little.  But I maintain that it's an important anecdote to share even if it's hard to do so without people thinking you're doing the "gotcha!" thing.
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 21,647
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    dignin said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
    I don’t disagree at all about the danger and responsibility factors. That some are foaming at the mouth with glee about his death makes me sick.

    I certainly don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Disappointing is all. 
    I actually don't feel like I see that much glee.  Yeah, there'll always be jerks and I've seen a little.  But I maintain that it's an important anecdote to share even if it's hard to do so without people thinking you're doing the "gotcha!" thing.
    I’m just going by what I see. And, I said some, not all.
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,320
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    dignin said:
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't enjoy the idea of reveling anyone's death.  That said, I think, or at least hope, that there's some value in sharing the fact that someone calls it a hoax and then falls victim to it.  There are ways to do that without doing a touchdown dance and high-fiving.  Of course, you'll always be accused of it (to own the libs) but hey, here's a fairly well-loved right-winger saying all the shit all the right-wingers say. Sweet karma?  Not to me.  Valuable cautionary tale?  I think so.
    Well said. Better to take the high road. 
    Yeah. So much for “if you hate something, don’t you do it too.”

    Hypocritical, and agreed, low road shit. No better than what Cain himself said. 
    What Cain said was dangerous. The guy has clout and people believe him. I wonder how many people have gotten sick by listening to him?

    So I don't believe that pointing out his stupidity is the same as what he said.
    I don’t disagree at all about the danger and responsibility factors. That some are foaming at the mouth with glee about his death makes me sick.

    I certainly don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Disappointing is all. 
    I actually don't feel like I see that much glee.  Yeah, there'll always be jerks and I've seen a little.  But I maintain that it's an important anecdote to share even if it's hard to do so without people thinking you're doing the "gotcha!" thing.
    Personally, I agreed that this was a cautionary tale.  Blindly following your President and believing in unfounded conspiracy theories can have catastrophic results.  In reality, I feel awful for Mr. Cain and his family.  To maintain his place in this Republican administration he had to “tow the line”.  In some ways, his unnecessary death was caused by trying to get this moron re-elected. 

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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of ChicagoPosts: 4,301
    He was a human being, regardless of what or why, sympathy would be the human response over hatred and serves you right mentality, I would hope this community reasponds with.  

    So we should not mourn death of people whom die of things like drug overdoses, drunk drivers, suicides or any other persobal choice that led to their demise with that thinking  That is the message you are sending.  Shameful. You know what folks, if that is what you are about here nowadys, I'm out.  If hate is your mindset, then I am no longer interested in this community.  A guy dies and all you think about is tearing him apart and celebrating his demise.  Sad it has gone so.low here.
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