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Exactly. Way too many people lump together the protests and the looting/rioting when they are like comparing apples to volcanoes.mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.0 -
Oh, because of that all the damage and nonsense is ok!!!!mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
Please, the moment leaders started painting their own streets they gave license to all these vandals to do what they continue to do. All in an effort to own the other side. Sounds just like the dipshit everyone here says they hate but seem to like the actions when taken by others against him.hippiemom = goodness0 -
I bet even when he's out of office, he'll be a bigger topic of conversation here than whoever the President is.cincybearcat said:
Oh, because of that all the damage and nonsense is ok!!!!mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
Please, the moment leaders started painting their own streets they gave license to all these vandals to do what they continue to do. All in an effort to own the other side. Sounds just like the dipshit everyone here says they hate but seem to like the actions when taken by others against him.
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Please don't equate me with the "dipshit." Not even close. Thank you.cincybearcat said:
Oh, because of that all the damage and nonsense is ok!!!!mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
Please, the moment leaders started painting their own streets they gave license to all these vandals to do what they continue to do. All in an effort to own the other side. Sounds just like the dipshit everyone here says they hate but seem to like the actions when taken by others against him.
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For sureLedbetterman10 said:
I bet even when he's out of office, he'll be a bigger topic of conversation here than whoever the President is.cincybearcat said:
Oh, because of that all the damage and nonsense is ok!!!!mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
Please, the moment leaders started painting their own streets they gave license to all these vandals to do what they continue to do. All in an effort to own the other side. Sounds just like the dipshit everyone here says they hate but seem to like the actions when taken by others against him.0 -
And yea, we'll be talking about Team Trump Treason more because he'll be spouting off about how unfairly he was treated, its all the libs' fault and he'll be indicted and hopefully tried and convicted. Meanwhile, a normal person will occupy the White House and not be doing putin on the Ritz's and white nationalists bidding. Imagine that?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No. He was not. Doesn't change my stance on it. If you are in support of letting the cities get "torn down," for lack of a better term, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. It's all good.mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
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Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
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See you use inflammatory words like "torn down" as if the entire city is in flames. That's ridiculous. Look at the aftermath of the Chicago riots of 68, or the Mayday riots of 71. Look at how the police handled them. They didn't help ease tensions in the least. "Law and Order" advocates completely ignore how the police handling of civil unrest only led to more unrest, not less.bbiggs said:
No. He was not. Doesn't change my stance on it. If you are in support of letting the cities get "torn down," for lack of a better term, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. It's all good.mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.0 -
Are you saying that peaceful protests should be broken up by cops, because that's what we're talking about here, not painting BLM on the street or trolling the president. If there are riots on 20 straight days, and one of those has looting, even if it's a minority, does that give the feds or anyone license to stop or break up First Amendment protected actions? No fucking way. Every day is a new day and a new person. Unless you break a law, you have every right to be out in the street protesting. Any other view is simply un-American to me.cincybearcat said:
Oh, because of that all the damage and nonsense is ok!!!!mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
Please, the moment leaders started painting their own streets they gave license to all these vandals to do what they continue to do. All in an effort to own the other side. Sounds just like the dipshit everyone here says they hate but seem to like the actions when taken by others against him.0 -
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
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I don't see it as inflammatory. I'll re-word it. If you are in support of letting citizens burn buildings, spray paint property, tear down statues of Christopher Columbus and throw frozen water bottles at police officers, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. That is very specific and real as to what is happening. Nothing inflammatory about it. Just fact. And I disagree with allowing it to happen. Those are not First Amendment rights.mrussel1 said:
See you use inflammatory words like "torn down" as if the entire city is in flames. That's ridiculous. Look at the aftermath of the Chicago riots of 68, or the Mayday riots of 71. Look at how the police handled them. They didn't help ease tensions in the least. "Law and Order" advocates completely ignore how the police handling of civil unrest only led to more unrest, not less.bbiggs said:
No. He was not. Doesn't change my stance on it. If you are in support of letting the cities get "torn down," for lack of a better term, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. It's all good.mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.
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I don't agree with it either. However, the people that do those things should be arrested. I don't think the entire protest should be broken up nor the protesters gassed. That is an over-policing situation. Said another way, 1 person in 100 breaking a law does not give law enforcement the right to trample on the civil liberties of the other 99. If the police cannot safely stop the 1 person, they should not be free to put the other 99 at risk.bbiggs said:
I don't see it as inflammatory. I'll re-word it. If you are in support of letting citizens burn buildings, spray paint property, tear down statues of Christopher Columbus and throw frozen water bottles at police officers, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. That is very specific and real as to what is happening. Nothing inflammatory about it. Just fact. And I disagree with allowing it to happen. Those are not First Amendment rights.mrussel1 said:
See you use inflammatory words like "torn down" as if the entire city is in flames. That's ridiculous. Look at the aftermath of the Chicago riots of 68, or the Mayday riots of 71. Look at how the police handled them. They didn't help ease tensions in the least. "Law and Order" advocates completely ignore how the police handling of civil unrest only led to more unrest, not less.bbiggs said:
No. He was not. Doesn't change my stance on it. If you are in support of letting the cities get "torn down," for lack of a better term, then we won't get remotely close on how we view this. It's all good.mrussel1 said:
Is that what the Portland mayor was doing last night when he was gassed?bbiggs said:Allowing police intervention when people are burning, spray painting, and damaging buildings/ businesses as well as tearing down statues and monuments (excluding Confederate figures) is different than breaking up protests protected by the First Amendment. Telling law enforcement to stand down while these crimes take place will only perpetuate the problem.0 -
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.0 -
Maybe, as a "responsible" fire arm owner, lock your firearms up/keep them secure/ be/held "responsible?" As a car and house owner, it seems I'm more "responsible" than the average firearm owner, if stolen guns are really the source of the crime, as you posit.tempo_n_groove said:
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.
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She’s insane blaming gang violence on the pandemic. She’s a bartender who’s become a famous politician who says outrageous things on twitter to keep her followers riled up. Sound familiar?tempo_n_groove said:
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.0 -
LOL. Not a bad comparison.nicknyr15 said:
She’s insane blaming gang violence on the pandemic. She’s a bartender who’s become a famous politician who says outrageous things on twitter to keep her followers riled up. Sound familiar?tempo_n_groove said:
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.
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Someone mentioned this early on in this thread and I believe we all shunned them. Guess we were wrong, lol.bbiggs said:
LOL. Not a bad comparison.nicknyr15 said:
She’s insane blaming gang violence on the pandemic. She’s a bartender who’s become a famous politician who says outrageous things on twitter to keep her followers riled up. Sound familiar?tempo_n_groove said:
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.0 -
No matter the answer I give you it won't suffice, so moving on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Maybe, as a "responsible" fire arm owner, lock your firearms up/keep them secure/ be/held "responsible?" As a car and house owner, it seems I'm more "responsible" than the average firearm owner, if stolen guns are really the source of the crime, as you posit.tempo_n_groove said:
Houses and cars still get broken into despite the safeguards. What to do then?Halifax2TheMax said:
You didn't answer the question(s) I posed regarding AOC and her comments but I'll respond to your statement. I thought a "responsible" gun owner was supposed to keep their firearms secured at all times? If so many criminals are able to steal them, it seems "responsible" gun owners aren't taking their firearm "responsibility" serious enough. Read up on the ma & pa gun shops that are targeted and the owners response being, "its too expensive for us to secure our stock." Sheesh, people driving cars are shot by 4 year olds in the back seat. Why? Because the "responsible" gun owner didn't secure their firearm or more likely, didn't know where it was. And the penalties, in both instances are rarely enforced and applied, if they even exist. So yea, more guns are the answer.tempo_n_groove said:
Sure. Gun owners expect their firearms to be stolen as much as you would your car stolen or house broken into. You think people want their things stolen?Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, then, I’d appreciate it if you’d answer the questions I posed to you regarding AOC’s comments. Let’s start with your answer(s) and then I’ll answer your question. Fair enough?tempo_n_groove said:
No caps. Just bolding the question. I really am interested. We can have a discussion about it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you pound the table too? I would but I don’t believe you’re truly interested.tempo_n_groove said:
Nope.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why are “responsible” gun owners allowing their guns to be stolen?tempo_n_groove said:
This is where AOC is wrong.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.tempo_n_groove said:
Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.Halifax2TheMax said:Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
Shootings here are done with stolen guns. So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.
Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears.
Answer my question.
Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge. I'm all ears
And I lock my car and house and keep the keys with me. I also have a car alarm and exterior motion lights. I also carry insurance on both, including theft and theft from premises. What are "responsible" gun owners supposed to do, whether legally or from a "responsibility" perspective to prevent firearm theft? If its such a contributing factor to the crime wave?
Anywho.
AOC. I said she was wrong. People are stealing because they are hungry? I wasn't aware that a sick pair of J's is palatable.
Your turn to answer my question please.0 -
My problem with this latest AOC headline is her use of the word "accosted." I've only read the reports, wasn't there. But according to the reports, someone called her disgusting, maybe a bitch. Since when is that "accosting" someone? Did the guy hit her? Grab her, push her, pull her hair? I thought that's what the word "accost" means. I mean, are there some sticks and stones, or are we only dealing with words here? When did saying something disagreeable and rude become an act of violence?
EDIT: I just looked up the definition. I've always associated that word with physical aggression. I guess I'm wrong.
I just don't understand her drama. Kind of tired of it.Post edited by what dreams on0
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