Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    My problem with this latest AOC headline is her use of the word "accosted." I've only read the reports, wasn't there. But according to the reports, someone called her disgusting, maybe a bitch. Since when is that "accosting" someone? Did the guy hit her? Grab her, push her, pull her hair? I thought that's what the word "accost" means. I mean, are there some sticks and stones, or are we only dealing with words here? When did saying something disagreeable and rude become an act of violence?
     to approach and speak to (someone) in an often challenging or aggressive way
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    My problem with this latest AOC headline is her use of the word "accosted." I've only read the reports, wasn't there. But according to the reports, someone called her disgusting, maybe a bitch. Since when is that "accosting" someone? Did the guy hit her? Grab her, push her, pull her hair? I thought that's what the word "accost" means. I mean, are there some sticks and stones, or are we only dealing with words here? When did saying something disagreeable and rude become an act of violence?
     to approach and speak to (someone) in an often challenging or aggressive way
    Yeah, I should have looked it up when I first heard about her latest grievance. Seems ironic to me. There are a lot of people accosting each other in the world right now. Seriously a both side-ism.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    My problem with this latest AOC headline is her use of the word "accosted." I've only read the reports, wasn't there. But according to the reports, someone called her disgusting, maybe a bitch. Since when is that "accosting" someone? Did the guy hit her? Grab her, push her, pull her hair? I thought that's what the word "accost" means. I mean, are there some sticks and stones, or are we only dealing with words here? When did saying something disagreeable and rude become an act of violence?
     to approach and speak to (someone) in an often challenging or aggressive way
    Yeah, I should have looked it up when I first heard about her latest grievance. Seems ironic to me. There are a lot of people accosting each other in the world right now. Seriously a both side-ism.
    Truth.  It's only accosted now, there is no talking.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,566
    So it’s ok to address a woman as a “F’n Bitch” that’s what the dude said 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    So it’s ok to address a woman as a “F’n Bitch” that’s what the dude said 
    Nobody said that on here Jose.

    Not a single person.
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    So it’s ok to address a woman as a “F’n Bitch” that’s what the dude said 
    No, it's not okay. That is not what I'm saying at all. I had a question about the word "accosted" which I confused with "assaulted" . . . but somehow it doesn't seem to matter. It is now a cultural norm to turn to Twitter to air all of our grievances, forcing people on that sewage drain to take sides. In an older day, people might have had some disagreements, had some heated words, vented about it with friends and families when they got home, and then moved on. Now it's a perpetual cycle of who can get more angry than the next person, who can get more likes and shares for being angry. I'm not on Twitter. If I were, I imagine I would look at AOC's thread and see that the dude called her a bitch and then her supporters called him equally offensive names and nothing comes out of that except a bunch of angry people spreading their anger like flames in a California forest. That in a nutshell is AOC's brand.

    I quit social media when the violence started this summer. It was turning me into a person I did not want to be -- anxious, depressed, angry. I finally decided I could no longer stomach enriching the technocrats who have become billionaires several times over by turning the American people against each other, by undermining our democracy. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
    Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.
    Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.
    This is where AOC is wrong.

    Shootings here are done with stolen guns.  So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.

    Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.

    Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge.  I'm all ears.
    As it relates to NYC and a surge in gun crime:

    Pandemic
    +
    20.4% unemployment (primarily Black & Latino and lower economic scale)
    +
    close to 33,000 covid deaths (3-1 Black/Latino : white. How many heads of households or primary caregivers/providers?)
    +
    Riker's Island and jails releasing violent criminals awaiting trial due to covid spread
    +
    Summer months with youths aged 16-20 not in school and outside with increased drug/gang activity
    +
    NYCPD unable to deal with being criticized for being called out on busting heads and choking people to death, with the people and their elected leaders calling for reform, resulting in a "work" slow down and reluctance to make arrests (how many on here work in an organization/department, get criticized or told to do a better job and respond by pouting or slowing down your work effort?)
    +
    Pent up frustration with a predominately white power structure that limits opportunity for minorities via all kinds of reasons, too much to get into, and the George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery killings
    +
    a flood of guns from "responsible" gun owners (up 42% in NY State for the month of March 2019 vs. 2020; Up 88% in FL; 135% GA; 90% SC; 127% NC; 82% VA; 98% MD; 80% DE; 31% PA; 20% NJ [what's up with NJ?}, for a total of 993,745 firearms sold in March 2020 that we know about) you know, the Iron Pipeline?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    She was responding to his "apology" on the House floor of yesterday. You know, the hallowed halls of Congress where the discourse and the agree to disagree is supposed to be civil? As opposed to in passing out of doors when its more difficult to manage what you really think and want to say?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    She was responding to his "apology" on the House floor of yesterday. You know, the hallowed halls of Congress where the discourse and the agree to disagree is supposed to be civil? As opposed to in passing out of doors when its more difficult to manage what you really think and want to say?
    Did not know he apologized on the house floor.  Missed that one.

    Stop pandering about the floor being civil.  That stopped a long time ago.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,566
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    He attempted to apologize on the same floor she’s responding to his veiled response! 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,077
    edited July 2020
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    She was responding to his "apology" on the House floor of yesterday. You know, the hallowed halls of Congress where the discourse and the agree to disagree is supposed to be civil? As opposed to in passing out of doors when its more difficult to manage what you really think and want to say?
    Did not know he apologized on the house floor.  Missed that one.

    Stop pandering about the floor being civil.  That stopped a long time ago.
    He didn’t apologize. He made excuses. How often has “f-ing bitch” been uttered on the floor? He would have been censored for that had he called her that on the floor and roundly condemned by both parties’ members.

    ”Pandering?” Who am I pandering too? Does that make me a panderer?
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  • stuckinline
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    edited July 2020
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Way to keep it classy. But hey, maybe Bezos could fund the NYC police? And not bat an eye?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/1174131/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-accosted-florida-rep-capitol-hill/
    Dude was out of line with the language but Ocasio is out of hers with that reasoning.
    Well, I wonder what the repub congressman blames for the uptick in shootings and crime in NYC? Was AOC out of line with her explanation, oversimplified as it was? Was there any truth to her statement(s)? I can think of several things to blame for the crime surge, inclusive of "responsible" gun owners.
    This is where AOC is wrong.

    Shootings here are done with stolen guns.  So those people doing the shootings are not responsible gun owners.

    Your comments are ridiculous sometimes.

    Let's hear your "why" on the crime surge.  I'm all ears.
    As it relates to NYC and a surge in gun crime:

    Pandemic
    +
    20.4% unemployment (primarily Black & Latino and lower economic scale)
    +
    close to 33,000 covid deaths (3-1 Black/Latino : white. How many heads of households or primary caregivers/providers?)
    +
    Riker's Island and jails releasing violent criminals awaiting trial due to covid spread
    +
    Summer months with youths aged 16-20 not in school and outside with increased drug/gang activity
    +
    NYCPD unable to deal with being criticized for being called out on busting heads and choking people to death, with the people and their elected leaders calling for reform, resulting in a "work" slow down and reluctance to make arrests (how many on here work in an organization/department, get criticized or told to do a better job and respond by pouting or slowing down your work effort?)
    +
    Pent up frustration with a predominately white power structure that limits opportunity for minorities via all kinds of reasons, too much to get into, and the George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery killings
    +
    a flood of guns from "responsible" gun owners (up 42% in NY State for the month of March 2019 vs. 2020; Up 88% in FL; 135% GA; 90% SC; 127% NC; 82% VA; 98% MD; 80% DE; 31% PA; 20% NJ [what's up with NJ?}, for a total of 993,745 firearms sold in March 2020 that we know about) you know, the Iron Pipeline?
    Interesting take.

    My take on the surge of crime?  When the plain clothes unit was disbanded, overnight the shootings went up.  Almost instantly.  I seriously believe that the cops were told to start "reporting every shooting" so the public would see that defunding the police or disbanding certain departments is bad for civilians.

    I can not prove this.  It's just a theory.  When a shooting happened before and no one was injured, no body, nobody cares, no paperwork.  Now it means something.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    He attempted to apologize on the same floor she’s responding to his veiled response! 
    Mentioned above that I missed that.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Kat said:
    Why is this being brought up on the House floor?  Wasn't this an isolated incident?

    I'm curious as to why and don't need to go on how it was wrong of him to do.
    She was responding to his "apology" on the House floor of yesterday. You know, the hallowed halls of Congress where the discourse and the agree to disagree is supposed to be civil? As opposed to in passing out of doors when its more difficult to manage what you really think and want to say?
    Did not know he apologized on the house floor.  Missed that one.

    Stop pandering about the floor being civil.  That stopped a long time ago.
    He didn’t apologize. He made excuses. How often has “f-ing bitch” been uttered on the floor? He would have been censored for that had he called her that on the floor and roundly condemned by both parties’ members.

    ”Pandering?” Who am I pandering too? Does that make me a panderer?
    No it makes you a Panda.

    I will look for his excuse/apology now.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    I don't follow AOC and had never heard of Yoho before this incident, so I checked her Twitter to get a first hand take of her "craziness" as described by some here. Definitely not bad like some have referenced. She even asks media to correct inaccurate reporting, both about her and Yoho. She's definitely outspoken, but I didn't see anything even close to Trump level postings. A lot of assumptions being made in this thread.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    tbergs said:
    I don't follow AOC and had never heard of Yoho before this incident, so I checked her Twitter to get a first hand take of her "craziness" as described by some here. Definitely not bad like some have referenced. She even asks media to correct inaccurate reporting, both about her and Yoho. She's definitely outspoken, but I didn't see anything even close to Trump level postings. A lot of assumptions being made in this thread.
    We are discussing, actually Fax and I are, what she said about people in NY stealing and their reason for it.