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Thoughts about PJ playing inside gigs

guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
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Just noticed a post on another forum saying that the band were reluctant to play inside gigs.. Just got me thinking if it was true... AND if so are there many other bands thinking the same cos if so it's definitely not going to be good for the music venues is it...??!! 

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    ceskaceska New York Posts: 1,076
    Until there is a vaccine, I think *most* bands are reluctant to do any shows. The pro sports leagues are a jumbled mess right now, and that is taking into account they would be paying without fans, which concerts obviously cannot do. Life is just going to be on hiatus until this shit is gone.

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    MKSNYCMKSNYC NYC Posts: 323
    I am hoping we see more PPV live-streams happening.  Just watched the Allman Betts Band from the Belly Up in Aspen and it was a lot of fun.  I would absolutely pay for a PJ live-stream!
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    i think we got a long wait ahead of us unfortunately
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,709
    all the signs are that anything indoors would be a reduced capacity which would seem to rule out GA for the forseeable

    imagine only allowing a third of the floor in and still having them squished at the front trying to catch Eds eye LOL

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    guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Thanks for the replies... Yea just wanted to get some of your thoughts.. Has been mentioned on efests that they might play Glastonbury but I don't reckon it'll happen especially as the next year's headliners will be the same as those that would have been playing this year.... 
    Don't think I'll ever see the day pj play Glastonbury.. 
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    chilisuarezchilisuarez USA / Canada Posts: 110
    danny said:
    i think we got a long wait ahead of us unfortunately
    This. 
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,159
    At this point I'm not entirely sure if there's a big difference between an indoor arena our an outdoor amphitheater.  I'm sure being outside helps a little, but it's the social distancing aspect that makes it challenging.

    To do proper distancing you'd only be able to fill a fraction of the venue.  Then you have to figure out how to make concert economics on a big venue with a small to medium sized capacity.

    I'm not sure what the solution is.  I agree with the comments above, that the solution might end up being a wait until after there is a vaccine or a treatment before resuming shows.    Doing them safely with Coronavirus gone wild, might not be plausible.
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    guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Would any here go to a festival.... Any festival... In which pj decided to play.. Rock Werchter in Belgium... 
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    tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,957
    guypjfreak said:
    Would any here go to a festival.... Any festival... In which pj decided to play.. Rock Werchter in Belgium... 
    Are we talking about next year? If so, and assuming coronavirus is being managed at a level where festivals are possible, then I would certainly go for it. I've not stepped in a pub or the office since this all started, but PJ live would be very hard to pass up. 

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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,517
    pdalowsky said:
    all the signs are that anything indoors would be a reduced capacity which would seem to rule out GA for the forseeable

    imagine only allowing a third of the floor in and still having them squished at the front trying to catch Eds eye LOL

    Lord knows the competition for a wine bottle or tambourine will be less intense. Game on!
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    Jumb0Jumb0 Posts: 910
    guypjfreak said:
    Would any here go to a festival.... Any festival... In which pj decided to play.. Rock Werchter in Belgium... 

    I'd go to New Zealand
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,709
    100 Pacer said:
    pdalowsky said:
    all the signs are that anything indoors would be a reduced capacity which would seem to rule out GA for the forseeable

    imagine only allowing a third of the floor in and still having them squished at the front trying to catch Eds eye LOL

    Lord knows the competition for a wine bottle or tambourine will be less intense. Game on!
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    Zod said:
    At this point I'm not entirely sure if there's a big difference between an indoor arena our an outdoor amphitheater.  I'm sure being outside helps a little, but it's the social distancing aspect that makes it challenging.

    To do proper distancing you'd only be able to fill a fraction of the venue.  Then you have to figure out how to make concert economics on a big venue with a small to medium sized capacity.

    I'm not sure what the solution is.  I agree with the comments above, that the solution might end up being a wait until after there is a vaccine or a treatment before resuming shows.    Doing them safely with Coronavirus gone wild, might not be plausible.
    Amphitheaters I've been to seem to vary in "outdoorsiness." There are some that, like you're saying, may as well be an arena with an open back wall and lawn.

    I think you could pull off a true outdoor gig, but it would take a lot of restraint on the part of attendees. Staying in spaced out seats/blankets, wearing masks when not eating/drinking, no concessions or a good plan for managing lines, etc.

    Unfortunately, I don't think fans of many popular bands could manage it. In this case, I've seen too much crazy shit at Pearl Jam shows to believe it would go off without a hitch.

    It kills me to say it, but live music like we know it is going to be one of the last things to come back. There will be one-off gigs that get pulled off, but I think there's a much longer road in front of us than behind us. 
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    Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 658

    Again I hope I am wrong but I think all the rescheduled tours from 2020 to 2021 are just going to be postponed again ( not just PJ but all bands )

    I have a hard time seeing how they are going to pull this all off safely , I think it will be 2022 when we are vaccinated and there is a large safety net.

    I feel even as much as I love PJ that its going to hard for me to go back to a show and feel ok about it.

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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    Matts3221 said:

    Again I hope I am wrong but I think all the rescheduled tours from 2020 to 2021 are just going to be postponed again ( not just PJ but all bands )

    I have a hard time seeing how they are going to pull this all off safely , I think it will be 2022 when we are vaccinated and there is a large safety net.

    I feel even as much as I love PJ that its going to hard for me to go back to a show and feel ok about it.

    I think the only hope for the first half of 2021 is if they happen to find a highly effective treatment that is in large supply. One or more effective vaccines could get here in time to open up the second half of the year, but just about everything would have to break right. As always, I'd love to be proven wrong by some miracle out of left field.
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    Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 658
    pjl44 said:
    Matts3221 said:

    Again I hope I am wrong but I think all the rescheduled tours from 2020 to 2021 are just going to be postponed again ( not just PJ but all bands )

    I have a hard time seeing how they are going to pull this all off safely , I think it will be 2022 when we are vaccinated and there is a large safety net.

    I feel even as much as I love PJ that its going to hard for me to go back to a show and feel ok about it.

    I think the only hope for the first half of 2021 is if they happen to find a highly effective treatment that is in large supply. One or more effective vaccines could get here in time to open up the second half of the year, but just about everything would have to break right. As always, I'd love to be proven wrong by some miracle out of left field.

    100% agree , I hope something comes out of left field and everyone can call me a fool. :)
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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,347
    Let’s just do all the same scheduled venues... but tenclub only!
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,469
    Zod said:
    At this point I'm not entirely sure if there's a big difference between an indoor arena our an outdoor amphitheater.  I'm sure being outside helps a little, but it's the social distancing aspect that makes it challenging.

    To do proper distancing you'd only be able to fill a fraction of the venue.  Then you have to figure out how to make concert economics on a big venue with a small to medium sized capacity.

    I'm not sure what the solution is.  I agree with the comments above, that the solution might end up being a wait until after there is a vaccine or a treatment before resuming shows.    Doing them safely with Coronavirus gone wild, might not be plausible.
    Agreed.  

    But I think it would depend on the venue.  Outdoors, if it was nice and breezy, it would continuously ventilate the air.  Provided people werent smashed into each other like in GA, this could be ok.  (Masked, of course).  

    But even outdoor venues...most of the "covered" sections are no better than an arena.  
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,186
    pjl44 said:
    Matts3221 said:

    Again I hope I am wrong but I think all the rescheduled tours from 2020 to 2021 are just going to be postponed again ( not just PJ but all bands )

    I have a hard time seeing how they are going to pull this all off safely , I think it will be 2022 when we are vaccinated and there is a large safety net.

    I feel even as much as I love PJ that its going to hard for me to go back to a show and feel ok about it.

    I think the only hope for the first half of 2021 is if they happen to find a highly effective treatment that is in large supply. One or more effective vaccines could get here in time to open up the second half of the year, but just about everything would have to break right. As always, I'd love to be proven wrong by some miracle out of left field.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,838
    MKSNYC said:
    I am hoping we see more PPV live-streams happening.  Just watched the Allman Betts Band from the Belly Up in Aspen and it was a lot of fun.  I would absolutely pay for a PJ live-stream!

    Oh me too. If Pearl Jam did something with Nugs.TV and broadcast a Live @ the Warehouse jam, it would blow our minds!
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    10c only inside the venues
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    unforgivenunforgiven Posts: 378
    Jumb0 said:
    guypjfreak said:
    Would any here go to a festival.... Any festival... In which pj decided to play.. Rock Werchter in Belgium... 

    I'd go to New Zealand
    New Zealand wouldn't let you in though 
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    matt84matt84 Posts: 597
    I think the European indoor shows will all be a go next Summer. Got serious doubts that there'll be any US shows next year. Maybe just the two already rescheduled festivals.
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