"Gigaton" and its tracks on the charts

1…1314161819…21

Comments

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    I wonder what Vs would sell had it come out in 2020. Any thoughts?
    www.myspace.com
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    That depends on whether you mean "if it came out in 2020 with Pearl Jam as popular as they were in 1993" or "if it came out in 2020 with Pearl Jam as popular as they are in 2020."  If the latter, it would sell the same as Gigaton (about 55,000).  If the former, I would guess between 300,000-350,000.  (I'm talking "pure sales"-- i.e., physical and digital sales of the full album.)  If you factor in streaming, I'd guess between 350,000-400,000 total units (i.e., pure sales plus streaming).
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    The Juggler said:
    I wonder what Vs would sell had it come out in 2020. Any thoughts?
    If they had the same popularity. I would say 600k. Maybe even over a million. And I believe they would be one of the few rock acts who would stream well. 
    I miss igotid88
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    BF25394 said:
    That depends on whether you mean "if it came out in 2020 with Pearl Jam as popular as they were in 1993" or "if it came out in 2020 with Pearl Jam as popular as they are in 2020."  If the latter, it would sell the same as Gigaton (about 55,000).  If the former, I would guess between 300,000-350,000.  (I'm talking "pure sales"-- i.e., physical and digital sales of the full album.)  If you factor in streaming, I'd guess between 350,000-400,000 total units (i.e., pure sales plus streaming).
    Something tells me they would have been one of the few rock acts that would stream well if they had the same popularity as in 1993. 
    I miss igotid88
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I wonder what Vs would sell had it come out in 2020. Any thoughts?
    If they had the same popularity. I would say 600k. Maybe even over a million. And I believe they would be one of the few rock acts who would stream well. 
    You mean in total, not first-week, right?  My guess was for the first week only because I inferred from the question, since Vs. set the first-week record, that it was about first-week sales, but I realize now that the question didn't specifically state that parameter.

    I don't really know what to make of the streaming.  I guess if we're imagining a world where Pearl Jam is as popular in 2020 as they were in 1993, that assumes that they're popular among young people, and young people stream more (though rock fans stream less).  Ultimately, this hypothetical makes my head hurt.  As much as I'd like to turn the clock back to 1993 for various reasons, I can't. 

    And if I somehow figure out a way to do it, I'm saving all the money I've spent on Pearl Jam and investing it in Amazon.  $10,000 invested at the IPO in 1998 would be worth over $20 million today.  With that kind of money, I could finally own Benaroya Hall on vinyl!
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    I wonder what Vs would sell had it come out in 2020. Any thoughts?
    If they had the same popularity. I would say 600k. Maybe even over a million. And I believe they would be one of the few rock acts who would stream well. 
    You mean in total, not first-week, right?  My guess was for the first week only because I inferred from the question, since Vs. set the first-week record, that it was about first-week sales, but I realize now that the question didn't specifically state that parameter.

    I don't really know what to make of the streaming.  I guess if we're imagining a world where Pearl Jam is as popular in 2020 as they were in 1993, that assumes that they're popular among young people, and young people stream more (though rock fans stream less).  Ultimately, this hypothetical makes my head hurt.  As much as I'd like to turn the clock back to 1993 for various reasons, I can't. 

    And if I somehow figure out a way to do it, I'm saving all the money I've spent on Pearl Jam and investing it in Amazon.  $10,000 invested at the IPO in 1998 would be worth over $20 million today.  With that kind of money, I could finally own Benaroya Hall on vinyl!
    I think first week. That's what I was going with.
    I miss igotid88
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    I can't imagine how Pearl Jam sells 600,000-1,000,000 in the first week in 2020.  The Weeknd sold 275,000 in the first week, to pick one example of a hugely popular present-day act.

    We need Adele to release an album this year as a test case.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    Part of it is because we will buy it and stream it. Maybe during this pandemic it wouldn't sell that many physical copies. But I believe the streaming numbers would make up for that.
    I miss igotid88
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Wait, so your numbers are combined sales and streaming?  I understood the question to be about sales only.  Even still, I don't see those kind of numbers.  The Weeknd was right at about 400,000 combined in the first week and, if I recall correctly, that's the highest non-BTS total of the year.  (I carve out BTS because they have fans literally buying dozens of copies of the album and streaming it nonstop to boost them on the chart.)
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2020
    The Weeknd isn't as big as Pearl Jam was back then. I would say he is on STP level big. A good comparison would be Drake. Even though I don't like Drake.

    And I pretty much do the same as BTS fans. I think I'm responsible for Binaural and Riot Act going Gold
    Post edited by igotid88 on
    I miss igotid88
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    Hell, Binaural has sold over 900K copies at this point. It's much closer to platinum than gold. Also, Riot Act has sold more than 600K copies. So unless you bought 100K copies of Riot Act, I don't think so.
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    The only PJ albums I like better than Riot Act are Ten and Yield. I think PJ may have reached the coolest version of themselves in 2002 and 2003. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    JimFletcherPearlJam said:
    Hell, Binaural has sold over 900K copies at this point. It's much closer to platinum than gold. Also, Riot Act has sold more than 600K copies. So unless you bought 100K copies of Riot Act, I don't think so.
    I wasn't actually serious that I made them Gold. Also at the time Riot Act was barely at 500k. At that time being close to 500k sold would get you gold because it was still based on shipments. Binaural would be certified platinum by now
    I miss igotid88
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    JimFletcherPearlJam said:
    The only PJ albums I like better than Riot Act are Ten and Yield. I think PJ may have reached the coolest version of themselves in 2002 and 2003. 
    You haven't heard Pearl Jam, Backspacer, Lightning Bolt, or Gigaton?
    I miss igotid88
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    I just think that in my world PJ was never cooler than 2002 and 2003 when Riot Act and Lost Dogs were released, and the band was touring pretty consistently during that time. They were obviously most popular from 1992 through 1995, but they just seemed to be maxing out the "coolmeter" in 2002 and 2003. By the time the Avocado album was released, they were well into their 40s, and the music seemed a little less edgy to me. Just my opinion brother. 
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    The band seemed to enter a different phase from 2006 until just recently. I think Gigaton sent them forward down a new and impressive path though. 
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    When I think of PJ performing Save You on Letterman in 2002, I see a band that can do no wrong at that point in time. They were the absolute essence of coolness back then. Don't get me wrong -- they're still really, really cool. However, almost nobody is as cool at age 56 as opposed to age 38. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    We saw a little bit of this earlier this year where it looked like there was going to be a collaboration with MLB. But then covid happened. I wonder if this would have helped first week sales had it happened then? 
    It's back on the iTunes rock album chart. Definitely not a big bump. But back then it's a different story

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pearl-jam-baseball/?trackback=twitter_mobile
    I miss igotid88
  • JimFletcherPearlJam
    JimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 381
    I'm hoping it's time for the chart numbers for the most recent week. I'm curious whether Gigaton is still situated in the top 100 of actual album sales. I hope so! Thanks.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    JimFletcherPearlJam said:
    I'm hoping it's time for the chart numbers for the most recent week. I'm curious whether Gigaton is still situated in the top 100 of actual album sales. I hope so! Thanks.
    Either he's late or they dropped out of every chart. Except for Triple A I guess 
    I miss igotid88

Categories