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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    DarthMaeglin said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    I just want to circle back to my last post (thought of adding this as an edit but prefer a separate post). I realized my tone may have come across as a bit flippant and caused some degree of offence, which was not my intent.

    All one can do in this circumstance (in my opinion) is to speak from their own perspective which was what I was trying to do. If I struck the wrong tone in my words I apologize. It’s an incredibly polarized world right now and while I don’t agree with being muted because I’m a white male, it doesn’t mean I don’t need to be mindful more than ever.

    This was bugging me all night but I’d gone and gotten baked so didn’t want to make it worse by posting stoned, lol.

    I’ll shut up now until the cars are back rolling on the weekend, thanks for reading.
    I never knew it was racist until my 20's so don't feel bad.
    Thanks, I appreciate that.

    On another note, who else was happy to see Dale Jr. back behind the wheel this afternoon?
    Most popular driver for like 12 years in a row and won one race?

    Not a fan but good for the sport.

    I have stories on Dale Jr too.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
     cdthomas1981 said:
    Bye Felicia!

    Y'all need to stop posting these stories.  No one gives a shit.  I'm happy w what NASCAR is doing right now and it detracts it from these idiots.
    Fair enough, I’ll keep politics off of here.  I support NASCAR not flying the confederate flag as well.  If someone is so passionate about having it present, then paint your car in it.  That’s your right to do so, you’ll just be judged in a negative light.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    It's a NASCAR thread and a relevant topic, no?

    Like not talking about players v owners in the MLB thread or not talking about kneeling in the NFL thread.

    Interesting that today's race is sponsored by Dixie Vodka.
    The website went to great lengths to add verbiage to try and avoid any issues.

    I haven't tried Dixie Vodka....as a vodka lover their sponsorship made me aware of their product.

    My five year old says Denny Hamlin is going win.
    Or Clint Bowyer
    Or William Byron.
    Or Kevin Harvick.
    Or 88.  Alex Bowman.

    As only a five year old (or a @Wobbie) can he seemingly roots for half of the darn teams.
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,362
    :rofl:
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    F Me In The Brain said:
    It's a NASCAR thread and a relevant topic, no?

    Like not talking about players v owners in the MLB thread or not talking about kneeling in the NFL thread.

    Interesting that today's race is sponsored by Dixie Vodka.
    The website went to great lengths to add verbiage to try and avoid any issues.

    I haven't tried Dixie Vodka....as a vodka lover their sponsorship made me aware of their product.

    My five year old says Denny Hamlin is going win.
    Or Clint Bowyer
    Or William Byron.
    Or Kevin Harvick.
    Or 88.  Alex Bowman.

    As only a five year old (or a @Wobbie) can he seemingly roots for half of the darn teams.
    It's ok to root for multiple drivers.  Nothing wrong w that.  I appreciate the sport.

    Oh and your kid ended up being right about Hamlin.  I'd take him to vegas, but I'd question the Bowman pick...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    So yesterdays highlights!

    Congrats to Denny Hamlin on the win and team Jordan.  His look and "I don't know" pose with his hands up was supposed to be a homage to Jordan after he hit all those 3's in the playoffs.

    My boy Byron got a top 10 finish and was 9th.

    Mr Wallace was 13th.

    Earnhardt Jr raced Saturday if you care, he got 5th.  Most likely won't see that ever again so hopefully you enjoyed it.

    NASCAR's statement on the Confederate Flag
    https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2020/06/10/nascar-statement-on-confederate-flag/
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Ha, yeah the little bugger was very excited his racer won.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
    When I was in Florida I shopped at Winn Dixie because it was close to me and thought nothing of it.

    When I heard of Dixie Vodka I thought it was made in the south because who in the north would call it that when it doesn't have anything to do with the north?

    Then you have you whom brought race into it.

    Never in my life have I associated the term dixie with a racist tie...  Sometimes you can overshoot things.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    There is this way to look at it....if they were naming the company tomorrow would they pick Dixie Vodka?
    Never, would be my answer.

    A whole new world.

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
    When I was in Florida I shopped at Winn Dixie because it was close to me and thought nothing of it.

    When I heard of Dixie Vodka I thought it was made in the south because who in the north would call it that when it doesn't have anything to do with the north?

    Then you have you whom brought race into it.

    Never in my life have I associated the term dixie with a racist tie...  Sometimes you can overshoot things.
    Didn't you also say that you lived most of your life without associating the Confederate flag with racism? 
    Seems more like you are undershooting.  I get it, you have family and friends that hold to these symbols and they are good people.  My grandparents were good people too, doesn't mean they weren't racist.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
    When I was in Florida I shopped at Winn Dixie because it was close to me and thought nothing of it.

    When I heard of Dixie Vodka I thought it was made in the south because who in the north would call it that when it doesn't have anything to do with the north?

    Then you have you whom brought race into it.

    Never in my life have I associated the term dixie with a racist tie...  Sometimes you can overshoot things.
    Didn't you also say that you lived most of your life without associating the Confederate flag with racism? 
    Seems more like you are undershooting.  I get it, you have family and friends that hold to these symbols and they are good people.  My grandparents were good people too, doesn't mean they weren't racist.
    You come up w crazy conclusions.  You and Halifax would get along well.  
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
    When I was in Florida I shopped at Winn Dixie because it was close to me and thought nothing of it.

    When I heard of Dixie Vodka I thought it was made in the south because who in the north would call it that when it doesn't have anything to do with the north?

    Then you have you whom brought race into it.

    Never in my life have I associated the term dixie with a racist tie...  Sometimes you can overshoot things.
    Didn't you also say that you lived most of your life without associating the Confederate flag with racism? 
    Seems more like you are undershooting.  I get it, you have family and friends that hold to these symbols and they are good people.  My grandparents were good people too, doesn't mean they weren't racist.
    You come up w crazy conclusions.  You and Halifax would get along well.  
    Maybe you are right, maybe 100 years of Confederacy worship by the KKK isn't enough, maybe after 200 years it won't be crazy to conclude that the symbols all racists use are racist lol
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    I think it is a generally accepted association.  (Stars and bars with racist attitudes)
    Does not mean that anyone who associates other things with the secession is a cross burner but the association is there.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    rgambs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Dixie means the south and no other definition should derive from it.

    Eh, I'm not so sure about that.  It's used in the same way the Confederate flag is used, as a provocative call-back rather than a contemporary reference.  You just don't see people using either one for any but two reasons, which are to express an inherently racist nostalgia for pre-Civil Rights eras, or to troll those who are sensitive to inherently racist symbols of pre-Civil Rights eras.  The symbols of the old south are obviously and understandably controversial, and this being universally known renders their use deliberately antagonistic.  Why be antagonistic in defense of a culture of racism and slavery?  Is owning the libs so important that it's ok to align yourself with white supremacy and adorn yourself in symbols of white supremacy?  
    If so, then it should be understood by all that this is an extension of the culture of hatred.
    When I was in Florida I shopped at Winn Dixie because it was close to me and thought nothing of it.

    When I heard of Dixie Vodka I thought it was made in the south because who in the north would call it that when it doesn't have anything to do with the north?

    Then you have you whom brought race into it.

    Never in my life have I associated the term dixie with a racist tie...  Sometimes you can overshoot things.
    Didn't you also say that you lived most of your life without associating the Confederate flag with racism? 
    Seems more like you are undershooting.  I get it, you have family and friends that hold to these symbols and they are good people.  My grandparents were good people too, doesn't mean they weren't racist.
    You come up w crazy conclusions.  You and Halifax would get along well.  
    Maybe you are right, maybe 100 years of Confederacy worship by the KKK isn't enough, maybe after 200 years it won't be crazy to conclude that the symbols all racists use are racist lol
    All this derived from the word dixie?  Got it!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    No I think Dixie was a throw in.
    It spun from the flag banning story.
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Disgusting to read this happened, but a good response from Wallace.

    Sad to also read some people chose to try and flaunt the ban on the Confederate flag, hopefully they all got soaked and won’t be appearing tomorrow.

    https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29345568/nascar-says-noose-found-bubba-wallace-garage-talladega


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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Hillary was right.  Deplorables.  So much hate.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    The great Richard Petty spoke in defense of Bubba Wallace.

    I'm watching now and every driver walked w Bubba Wallace including Richard Petty pushing his car.

    Every crew member is with him too.  

    Beautiful moment in this sport right now but it should never have had to happen.

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