Kat said:

Powerful imagery. Has anyone heard anything about any measurable differences, even tiny ones, in climate change since most of us have been in lockdown? It's a short period of time to think about what's happening on the planet but I'm wondering if the ice melt has slowed at all. I'm sure we'd need to treat the planet better for a longer period of time to make a huge difference but I just thought I'd ask. 

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Kat said:

Powerful imagery. Has anyone heard anything about any measurable differences, even tiny ones, in climate change since most of us have been in lockdown? It's a short period of time to think about what's happening on the planet but I'm wondering if the ice melt has slowed at all. I'm sure we'd need to treat the planet better for a longer period of time to make a huge difference but I just thought I'd ask. 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200422-how-has-coronavirus-helped-the-environment

One negative I can clearly see is the disposal of all the gloves and masks on a daily that make it or don't to the local landfill.  I do know our state has stopped recycling for over a month now.

But, less carbon emissions.

The other unfortunate thing, at least in our area, it that stores do not allow you to bring your own bag, so now paper and plastic bags are in greater use again, plus all restaurants until recently could only serve take-out, so lots more throw away packaging. 

But I still think the net gain is that there are fewer carbon emissions from decreased driving and, particularly, from reduced air travel. 

Most people I know love to travel but reduced travel would help this planet hugely.  I haven't been more than a couple hours drive from home for at least a couple years.  I'm good with that.  I'm not slamming those who travel- my wife likes to, especially with her daughter being 1250 miles away- or saying no one should travel, but if fewer of us did, it would help a lot.

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

Greta and Malala

https://twitter.com/Malala/status/1232346177342988288

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1232360416375967745

I just realized...neither one is smiling. I mean wtf?  NO smile?  Or if that is there smile, that sucks.

greta is clearly smiling. maybe malala has trouble smiling.  you know. acid to the face and all that. 

Smellyman said:

Therightwingdumbfuckery blogosphere is going nuts and thirsting for blood.

gimmesometruth27 said:

Smellyman said:

Therightwingdumbfuckery blogosphere is going nuts and thirsting for blood.

ah screw em. let them live in their bubble of hate.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish radio (P1) has a yearly thing every summer where like 10 people are picked to guest host the program "Summer with P1" where they can talk about whatever they like and play songs they like. It is always a big thing every year when the roster of the summer is revealed in Sweden. This year, the first one out was to be Greta Thunberg. And she also recorded her in english (I think as a cooperation with the british BBC). And it's available here. I don't think the english version has the music though, just Greta.

Greta Thunberg: Humanity has not yet failed

Climate activist Greta Thunberg urges world leaders to do more. ”Doing our best is no longer good enough. We must now do the seemingly impossible,” Thunberg says in the Swedish Radio show “Summer on P1” where she takes us along her trip to the front lines of the climate crisis.

– We don’t accept these odds.
That was Greta Thunberg’s principal message while speaking before the General Assembly of the United Nations last year. It referred to the remaining CO2-budget of humanity.

– But the only message that seems to have resonated is “how dare you”, she says in the beginning of her Program, Summer on P1, a well-known Swedish Radio Show.

 After her speech, Greta and her father travel through 37 states in total.

 – Apart from a few wind power plants and solar panels, there are no signs whatsoever of any sustainable transition, despite this being the richest country in the world.

She has been discouraged from visiting the state of Alberta in Canada, but goes there anyway. Alberta is one of the western world’s largest oil producers and has a very powerful and aggressive oil lobby.

– On several occasions I need to call for police protection when the level of threats and the sheer harassments become too serious, she witnesses in her program.

On her way to Jasper Nation Park she drives through magnificent pine forests, but many trees aren’t green, their needles are either brown or have been lost entirely. She visits the Athabasca glacier and on her way up to the glacier she can see the signs of how the glacier has disappeared meter by meter, it is currently withdrawing five meter every year. The last 125 years the glacier has lost half of its volume, due to global heating.

– This year – 2020 – the emission curve must be bent steeply downwards, if we are to still have even a small chance of achieving the goals that world leaders have agreed to, says Greta Thunberg. Either we go on as a civilization, or we don’t. Doing our best is no longer good enough. We must now do the seemingly impossible. And that is up to you and me. Because no one else will do it for us.



You can listen to it here, let me know if it is blocked outside of Sweden/Europe or whatever:

https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/1535269?fbclid=IwAR2bWTbLAiBu8_mLmEFqtDZipOcKpHwsEv6QTwL5IBG_VQ_lCJDVSRpKuuw