Who is your choice in the Democratic Presidential Primary?

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    Just wondering because I can’t find any info.  Did warren endorse Biden and if so how many days after she dropped out? Does that not matter? Or is this only a crap on Bernie party?
    I think Warren is the only other (major) candidate who hasn't endorsed Biden

    Bernie made it a point to commit to supporting the D candidate when directly asked during the debates

    His message the other day made it point to say he remains in the race and wants more delegates
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Joe Biden
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited April 2020
    Pete Buttigeg
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    edited April 2020
    Bernie Sanders
    CM189191 said:

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    Wtf is uncle blazer and why are his opinions valid on anything?  He also claims Bernie is taking campaign contributions...pretty sure Bernie is asking his supporters to donate to causes and not make any contributions to his presidential run, but it’s ok to twist the facts I guess
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Joe Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Joe Biden
    CM189191 said:

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    Do you believe this garbage or just like to have your hands in feces? 
    You lose credibility with practically every post nowadays. 
    Flip flop.
    Nice sandals.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Pete Buttigeg
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    Bernie Sanders
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    and iowa, and missouri, and all of the other states that had their primary nearly 8 months before the general. the primaries should all be held on the same day nationwide. there is absolutely no reason for us to have a 2 year campaign for a 4 year job. out system is a joke.
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  • jeffbr
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    The most super Tuesday of all. I know that my state, WA, has historically been one of the latest primaries, and understand the frustration of have ZERO choice by the time the primaries came our way. This year we moved to the Tuesday after Super Tuesday and it was great feeling like we had some input in the process (although was disappointed that even that early we lost a significant number of options). I also hate that Iowa and NH are somehow slotted first. Having no relationships, family, business or any other interest in those two insignificant states, it has always been baffling to me why they have the influence they do.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Joe Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    How can you feel that way with daily posts spamming every primary related post with "Did Bernie drop out yet" "Bernie should drop out" etc.
    I've seen it too much on Twitter and FB to just dismiss it.  They use the same useful-idiot vehemence and tone as the BernieBros used to attack Clinton.

    No, the States should all vote on the same day or in a series of a few contests spread over a few weeks. 
    Give everyone a chance to vote for someone like Yang.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,135
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    Because that favors candidates with greater fundraising ability and name recognition and doesn’t allow for a Obama type to catch on and build momentum. And states’ rights to determine their primary date. But I could get with some kind of reformulated primary system of mixing least/most populated states into 3 or 4 rounds separated by two weeks. Even so, it might result in one left standing by the final round and I have no idea how it’d work. But giving so much credence to Iowa and NH is ridiculous.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2020
    Joe Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    Because that favors candidates with greater fundraising ability and name recognition and doesn’t allow for a Obama type to catch on and build momentum. And states’ rights to determine their primary date. But I could get with some kind of reformulated primary system of mixing least/most populated states into 3 or 4 rounds separated by two weeks. Even so, it might result in one left standing by the final round and I have no idea how it’d work. But giving so much credence to Iowa and NH is ridiculous.
    This is an outdated mode of thinking.  A contest on a single day favors a "social media sensation" candidate, and allows for candidates who can't fund massive, months-long ground campaigns to stay in the running long enough for people to vote.  A single day of voting FAVORS an Obama, or Yang/Butigieg style candidate.

    I get the argument though that the organization of the ground campaign is a proving ground for the candidates, and so I think a few consolidated rounds of voting in the course of a few weeks to a month is a perfect middle ground.
    Post edited by rgambs on
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Joe Biden
    rgambs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    Because that favors candidates with greater fundraising ability and name recognition and doesn’t allow for a Obama type to catch on and build momentum. And states’ rights to determine their primary date. But I could get with some kind of reformulated primary system of mixing least/most populated states into 3 or 4 rounds separated by two weeks. Even so, it might result in one left standing by the final round and I have no idea how it’d work. But giving so much credence to Iowa and NH is ridiculous.
    This is an outdated mode of thinking.  A contest on a single day favors a "social media sensation" candidate, and allows for candidates who can't fund massive, months-long ground campaigns to stay in the running long enough for people to vote.  A single day of voting FAVORS an Obama, or Yang/Butigieg style candidate.

    I get the argument though that the organization of the ground campaign is a proving ground for the candidates, and so I think a few consolidated rounds of voting in the course of a few weeks to a month is a perfect middle ground.
    Maybe don’t do a single day, but allocate 10 states at a time over five separate “Super Tuesdays” or 5 states over 10 Super Tuesdays, or whatever. The system as it is blows. Pennsylvania has about three times as many people as Iowa and New Hampshire combined. Why the fuck do those two states have more say in presidential primaries than Pennsylvania (who has NO say this year)? Just a horrible system. Worse than the electoral college system in the general. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited April 2020
    Pete Buttigeg
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    Imagine you have 20 candidates and all states vote.  No one will win a majority and the decision will go to the convention for a brokered selection.  Imagine the cries of "establishment", "elites" "rigged".
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    Imagine how republicans feel....they didn't get a choice at all this primary
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,135
    rgambs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    Our primary system is fucking stupid.
    Posters on here have been saying Bernie needs to drop out for more than a month, despite a huge percentage of the Democratic populace not even having had the chance to vote yet.  I've been tolerating it, but now I'm pissed.  I finally get a chance to cast a vote, and there are no choices left.  You BidenBros got your way, and now, in the 7th most populated state in the country, I don't have the opportunity to vote for ANY of the diverse Democratic candidates.
    In fact, thanks to the absolutely moronic rules of primary voting, COVID-19 and the tireless efforts of the BidenBros, the Democratic voters in the 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th most populated states no longer have a primary choice.
    Fucking stupid.

    You're argument is with math,  not the  Biden supporters. 
    My argument is with the dipshit system of caucuses and primaries that gives states like Iowa, NH, and SC, a ridiculously disproportionate influence on the selection of candidates available to later states. My frustration overflows on to the BidenBros that have been hounding everyone but Biden to drop out since Super Tuesday, and regular Biden supporters aren't even on my radar.
    Even without BidenBros, many, if not most of us never had/would have had a chance to vote for the candidate we liked most.
    I feel like the Biden Bros thing is a fabrication.   However,  are you arguing that states should be ordered in the primary based on population?  Someone else here argued vehemently that only blue and purple states should even get a say,  then refined that to purple should go first.  In either of those scenarios,  Ohio is basically left out. 
    Why not have all primaries on the same day?
    Because that favors candidates with greater fundraising ability and name recognition and doesn’t allow for a Obama type to catch on and build momentum. And states’ rights to determine their primary date. But I could get with some kind of reformulated primary system of mixing least/most populated states into 3 or 4 rounds separated by two weeks. Even so, it might result in one left standing by the final round and I have no idea how it’d work. But giving so much credence to Iowa and NH is ridiculous.
    This is an outdated mode of thinking.  A contest on a single day favors a "social media sensation" candidate, and allows for candidates who can't fund massive, months-long ground campaigns to stay in the running long enough for people to vote.  A single day of voting FAVORS an Obama, or Yang/Butigieg style candidate.

    I get the argument though that the organization of the ground campaign is a proving ground for the candidates, and so I think a few consolidated rounds of voting in the course of a few weeks to a month is a perfect middle ground.
    So a social media savvy candidate gets the nod but then as they campaign for the general, the voters pay attention to the absolute cluster fuck, poor policy ideas and misstatements and gaffes, maybe the skellys come out of the closet too and they get creamed in the general. Particularly against an incumbent. No thank you.

    Primaries are a vetting process and not just dems pay attention.
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    Wtf is uncle blazer and why are his opinions valid on anything?  He also claims Bernie is taking campaign contributions...pretty sure Bernie is asking his supporters to donate to causes and not make any contributions to his presidential run, but it’s ok to twist the facts I guess
    Maybe you missed Bernie's statement the other day when he suspended his campaign and refused to explicitly endorse Biden like he promised

    Also, you can donate here if you want : https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bern-site?refcode=website-home-nav
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    Do you believe this garbage or just like to have your hands in feces? 
    You lose credibility with practically every post nowadays. 
    Flip flop.
    Nice sandals.

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