More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?

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  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
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    EarlWelsh said:
    The only reason Biden started to win primaries was because American voters are generally pretty uninformed and easily fall victim to media fear-mongering. The surprise, last-minute endorsements from O’Rourke, Klobuchar, Buttigieg also helped a lot. Hell, Biden himself pretty much gave all credit to their endorsements once he started winning.
    Ah the old...everyone is dumber than me and if my candidate isn't winning it's because people are uninformed argument.  That's a dumb argument.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Posts: 9,478
    EarlWelsh said:
    Many, many reasons. The guy says dumb shit daily. 

    But this right here? Enough said.

    “I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.

    The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”

    The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”



  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Ah the old...everyone is dumber than me and if my candidate isn't winning it's because people are uninformed argument.  That's a dumb argument.
    No, not everyone. But the people who made up their mind between the day-before endorsements and the next day’s primaries are who I’m referring to. And they’re not dumb. Just misinformed victims of “Bernie can’t win” fear-mongering.
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    dignin said:
    Many, many reasons. The guy says dumb shit daily. 

    But this right here? Enough said.

    “I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.

    The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”

    The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”



    And?
  • Posts: 16,834
    EarlWelsh said:
    No, not everyone. But the people who made up their mind between the day-before endorsements and the next day’s primaries are who I’m referring to. And they’re not dumb. Just misinformed victims of “Bernie can’t win” fear-mongering.
    But Bernie already failed to win the Dem nomination in 2016 and has failed again.  You can't win the general election by losing your (fake) party's nomination.  He has failed.  His best bet is to put his efforts into getting a Democratic president and pushing his own agenda through them as much as possible.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Posts: 9,478
    edited April 2020
    EarlWelsh said:
    And?
    And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".

    How about the fact he was a birther?

    The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
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    EarlWelsh said:
    Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?

    Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?

    Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?

    Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?

    Biden needs to drop out.

    If all those things you say about Biden are true

    Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden

    How will you feel when Bernie supports Biden like he promised?

    Speaking of lying....where are Bernie's medical records like he promised?
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    dignin said:
    And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".

    How about the fact he was a birther?

    The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
    He, a comedian first and foremost, tweeted one thing entertaining the notion of birtherism....and that was how long ago?

    he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?

    I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”

    You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
  • Posts: 5,076
    Beating Trump in the fall
    Moron not moran 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    edited April 2020
    Beating Trump in the fall
    EarlWelsh said:
    Running Biden = Losing to Trump
     biden is beating trump in every non-rasmussen poll. and it will get better for biden as trump bungles every single issue that comes up.
    Post edited by Kat on
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Posts: 9,478
    EarlWelsh said:
    He, a comedian first and foremost, tweeted one thing entertaining the notion of birtherism....and that was how long ago?

    he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?

    I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”

    You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
    The guy thought saunas would stop the coronavirus. Probably gurgling salt water right now to kill it.
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    Beating Trump in the fall
    bernie is not doing as well as he did in 2016. he should drop out now and save himself and his followers the embarrassment of getting further trounced by biden. bernie should stop being so selfish. i voted for bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries, so don't fucking @ me.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Posts: 9,478
    static111 said:
    Moron not moran 
    Not now, thanks to dear leader.
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    dignin said:
    The guy thought saunas would stop the coronavirus. Probably gurgling salt water right now to kill it.
    Haha, nahhhh. He read peoples’ claims online about the effectiveness of saunas and brought it up to a doctor for clarification. 
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    With all due respect, I don’t believe he’s being selfish. I think he’s truly the only one with the peoples’ interest in mind at this point and that’s why he’s stayed in so far.
  • Posts: 31,471
    CM189191 said:

    If all those things you say about Biden are true

    Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
    You live in a country where as a  basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.

    Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    You live in a country where as a  basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.

    Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country. 
    And Biden is just more of that good, American same old, same old.
  • Posts: 6,927
    You live in a country where as a  basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.

    Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country. 
    ACA is tax-funded healthcare
    Medicare 
    is tax-funded healthcare
    Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
    CHIP is tax-funded healthcare

    If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    CM189191 said:
    ACA is tax-funded healthcare
    Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
    Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
    CHIP is tax-funded healthcare

    If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
    ACA is a failure, overall.

    why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone? 
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