More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?
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CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
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Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
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CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
I should have known you were gonna bang the table.
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Beating Trump in the fallEarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:
Mine is $1824 annually. It also hasn't increased significantly since ACA was enacted.
Or have you considered increasing your income?0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
As someone with no coverage otherwise I felt forced into it and then left at the mercy of a greedy insurance provider.0 -
Kat said:Spiritual_Chaos said:This is the thread topic. Stop talking about each other and go back to the topic please. Many are suggesting that it's past time for Senator Sanders to end his campaign and also suggest his supporters support the Democratic nominee. Will he do that? Will they vote for the nominee? Will they vote at all or stay home?
Falling down,...not staying down0 -
CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:
Mine is $1824 annually. It also hasn't increased significantly since ACA was enacted.
Or have you considered increasing your income?Before, under the ACA, where it was only coverage for me, I watched the cost skyrocket every few months until I couldn’t even afford to pay it. I owed thousands to my provider and luckily for me, I guess, they went bankrupt and I didn’t have to pay.
So while the ACA greatly benefits many who need it, and that’s truly wonderful, it was my experience and the experience of many others, that it didn’t go far enough in how or who it helped.
Is increasing one’s income as easy as flicking a switch to you?0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:this thread is a fucking shitshow.
well done.0 -
EarlWelsh said:gimmesometruth27 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
As someone with no coverage otherwise I felt forced into it and then left at the mercy of a greedy insurance provider.
how many people are covered for $4800? Is that just you? or your family as well?
What state are you in? Did your governor expand Medicaid?
To say it didn't go 'far enough' sounds like it was a success. Just not as much of a success as you would have liked it to be. That's not the same as failure.0 -
CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:gimmesometruth27 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
As someone with no coverage otherwise I felt forced into it and then left at the mercy of a greedy insurance provider.
how many people are covered for $4800? Is that just you? or your family as well?
What state are you in? Did your governor expand Medicaid?
To say it didn't go 'far enough' sounds like it was a success. Just not as much of a success as you would have liked it to be. That's not the same as failure.And I live in New York State.0 -
Beating Trump in the fallHalifax2TheMax said:myoung321 said:Halifax2TheMax said:myoung321 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
Come on, you're better than that... You know It's an invented slur used to attack another campaign and you're still using it? For your own credibility... stop.. be smarter than that..
Look at the origin of “Berniebro” before you claim it’s something other than how it was originally meant.
I use derogatory nicknames for those I have no respect for, Team Trump Treason and the deplorables for one. I didn’t coin the term “Berniebro” but rather have used it as they were once so proud of their moniker. At least they’re a “movement,” unlike #queersagainstpete. I wonder if Bernie were leading in primary wins and the delegate count if you’d be offended by the term “Berniebro” or “Berniebrosis?”"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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Beating Trump in the fallI just want to ask a question... I've seen this pop up several times on the Medicare for All vs Private Insurance -
Seems some people are confused....
Question.....
You do realize that if you have MEDICARE you get the SAME...let me repeat... THE EXACT SAME doctors and hospitals and everything else as anyone that works for a big company and gets their coverage through Aetna, Blue Cross, Signa, (ADD YOUR INSURANCE LOGO HERE) etc, You do realize this, right?
Sorry, but seen "I DON'T" WANT TO GIVE UP MY PRIVATE HEALTHCARE".... too many times.
So when someone yells.. Don't take my private insurance away!!!!!... It's factually moronic.. Like people that spout Anti Socialism talking points, then in the next breath rant about how they better not touch their Social Security ..... moronic..Post edited by myoung321 on"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
But this right here? Enough said.“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
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mickeyrat said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
But this right here? Enough said.“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.0 -
dignin said:
mickeyrat said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
But this right here? Enough said.“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
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dignin said:mickeyrat said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
But this right here? Enough said.“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.0 -
Sorry those pictures posted out of order. You can figure it out I’m sure.0
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EarlWelsh said:dignin said:mickeyrat said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:EarlWelsh said:dignin said:Halifax2TheMax said:Spoken like a true Berniebrosis. Fuck Rogan.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders
But this right here? Enough said.“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
Rogan is probably pounding bleach as we speak. If anyone wants to defend Joe Rogan there is a mountain of evidence out there that the guy is at best below average intelligence.Post edited by dignin on0
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