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  • Posts: 31,505
    edited March 2020
    I'm really starting to feel like DotC sticking out like a sore thumb between SBWM and QE with it having a completely different sound (dead and void of room (or whatever, living/breathing)) to the others.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 16,995
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I'm really starting to feel like DotC sticking out like a sore thumb between SBWM and QE with it having a completely different sound (dead and void of room (or whatever, living/breathing)) to the others.
    I’ve always had a sorta similar feeling with Nothingman. I have no time not patience for it between Tremor Christ and Whipping. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    I’ve always had a sorta similar feeling with Nothingman. I have no time not patience for it between Tremor Christ and Whipping. 
    You’re skipping Nothingman?! :o
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    I’ve always had a sorta similar feeling with Nothingman. I have no time not patience for it between Tremor Christ and Whipping. 

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 16,995
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    I knew that’d be the response. Not that I knew what gif it’d be. But something in the realm of “Don’t speak ill of Nothingman” was expected. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    I’ve always had a sorta similar feeling with Nothingman. I have no time not patience for it between Tremor Christ and Whipping. 
    Hmmm...

    it’s not like Tremor Christ is a ball of fire exactly.
  • Posts: 16,995
    JPPJ84 said:
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    You’re skipping Nothingman?! :o
    Yeah. Not that it’s a bad song or anything, but I’ve never been into it. 
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  • Posts: 49,598
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Yeah. Not that it’s a bad song or anything, but I’ve never been into it. 
    Don't speak ill of Nothingman
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  • Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    edited March 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Yeah. Not that it’s a bad song or anything, but I’ve never been into it. 
    Blasphemy! I may have to dig out that Immortality thread again... I'm pretty sure we had that argument before :lol: 
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    JPPJ84 said:
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    Blasphemy! I may have to dig out that Immortality thread again... I'm pretty sure we had that argument before :lol: 
    Oh good. So then you already know I love Immortality and am indifferent to Nothingman. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Oh good. So then you already know I love Immortality and am indifferent to Nothingman. 
    Are you indifferent to Indifference though?
  • Posts: 2,002
    Smarter_Than_U said:
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    Can’t make up what exactly? ***Someone asked me*** to explain why I thought EV ruined Alright, so I used additional words to explain my reaction. What would you recommend as an alternative? A modern interpretative dance? I’m not tracking what’s so incredible.

    (Also, I also used the word pandering, but you seemed to ignore that- I suppose that would have been inconvenient for your exasperation.)

    BTW, I have been a fan since the spring of 1992. Never stopped for one day. With that, loyalty doesn’t mean loving everything someone does. It’s ok to tell a person or entity that you know and care about that they can do better and yet continue to love and support them. 

    Bottom line- they are half a song away from a great 10-song album. 
    Just hilarious. 
  • Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    Anybody who has alright or buckle up as their top two be takin’ strong acid
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Posts: 27,008
    My rankings after 20 listens:

    DoTC
    Who Ever Said
    River Cross 
    Quick Escape
    Seven O Clock
    Comes then Goes 
    Superblood Wolfmoon
    Alright
    Take the Long Way
    Retrograde
    Never Destination
    Buckle Up
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • Iowa Posts: 650
    cp3iverson said:
    Im just not a self-titled fan.  Still have never connected with it.  So i have Avocado in last place. 

    Yield is top 3 or 4.  So good. 
    Yeah, I think my issue with self-titled is the production.  Just too harsh.  I think it's a really solid album ("Big Wave" could be left on the cutting room floor), but I think the production just makes it a challenge for me.I'm personally loving the production on Gigaton.  I enjoyed  O'Brien's production on Backspacer and Lightning Bolt too.  You're in the studio, go ahead and create, explore and try new things.  Production is just a huge component.  Look at the Beatles orginal Let It Be (Phil Spector) versus Let It Be... Naked.  Two really, really different albums, and in that case I'll take "Naked" over the original all damn day.

    I don't understand people that are always talking about going for raw and stripped down... that's fine if the songs and the vision are to be raw and stripped down.  I think Gigaton's production is spot on.
    1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
    2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
    2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
    2005: 9/9, 9/28
    2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
    2007: 8/5
    2009: 8/23, 8/24
    2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
    2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
    2013: 7/19, 11/16
    2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
    2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
    2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
    2022: 9/18
    2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
    2024: 5/18, 6/29
  • Posts: 13,890
    SVRDhand13 said:
    My rankings after 20 listens:

    DoTC
    Who Ever Said
    River Cross 
    Quick Escape
    Seven O Clock
    Comes then Goes 
    Superblood Wolfmoon
    Alright
    Take the Long Way
    Retrograde
    Never Destination
    Buckle Up
    Who Ever Said is really growing on me now. Just took a couple of listens to click. My rankings are. 


    1. Quick Escape
    2. Seven O Clock
    3. Who Ever Said
    4. Comes Then Goes
    5. Alright
    6. DOTC 
    7. River Cross
    8. Retrograde
    9. Superblood Woflmoon
    10. Buckle Up
    11. Never Destination
    12. Take The Long Way

    Ranking past albums, songs like Future Days would be at the bottom and they deserved that spot for me. With this album the bottom does not mean it's bad just not as good as the rest. Not a dud on this one for me yet.


  • Posts: 16,995
    wnh1977 said:
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    Yeah, I think my issue with self-titled is the production.  Just too harsh.  I think it's a really solid album ("Big Wave" could be left on the cutting room floor), but I think the production just makes it a challenge for me.I'm personally loving the production on Gigaton.  I enjoyed  O'Brien's production on Backspacer and Lightning Bolt too.  You're in the studio, go ahead and create, explore and try new things.  Production is just a huge component.  Look at the Beatles orginal Let It Be (Phil Spector) versus Let It Be... Naked.  Two really, really different albums, and in that case I'll take "Naked" over the original all damn day.

    I don't understand people that are always talking about going for raw and stripped down... that's fine if the songs and the vision are to be raw and stripped down.  I think Gigaton's production is spot on.
    I dunno. I thought Let It Be...Naked didn't live up to what it could have been. I liked what they were trying to do. But Spector actually did an good job recording the "live" songs for the album (the versions of Two Of Us, I've Got a Feeling, One after 909 are the live versions you see in the Let It Be film). So frankly, I think the original album is fine if you replace Across the Universe with the Wildlife version (or even the Anthology 2 version), and Long and Winding Road with the version from the film (which I think might be the version they use on "Naked"). For my personal version of the album, I replace the two versions (Universe, Winding Road) I mentioned, as well as the song Let It Be  (I prefer the single version to the album version). And for me, that's a perfect album. The "Naked" version sort of neuters the rooftop songs. One After 909 for example is way better on the original than Naked...to me. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    1.Dotc
    2. Quick Escape
    3.Superblood Wolfmoon
    4.7 O'Clock
    5.Never Destination (The Bitch Carole Baskin's Gaping Maw)
    6.Comes Then Goes
    7.Buckle Up
    8. RIver Cross
    9.Alright
    10.Retrograde
    11.Take The Long Way (Honestly this song should have been dropped for something else)
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Posts: 1,180
    1. Who Ever Said
    2. Comes Then Goes
    3. Never Destination
    4. DOTC
    5. Take the Long Way
    6. Quick Escape
    7. Buckle Up
    8. SBWM
    9. Alright
    10. Retrograde







    11. River Cross
    12. 7 O’Clock

    looking to hear of the earth
  • Posts: 16,853
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anybody who has alright or buckle up as their top two be takin’ strong acid
    Top 2?  Hmmmm Alright is close for me.  Love Buckle up as well but not top 2.  Never did acid.  
    hippiemom = goodness

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