The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,815
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People even having a thing like Guns being an issue is and I guess never will not be mindblowing to me.

    It like if someone would have "Cars" as an issue. 

    Chuck Todd: But Mr candidate, you are avoiding the question -- in 1984 you voted for having seatbelts on being a law. Did you not?

    Candidate: All I can tell you Todd, is that I have a D minus grade from the seatbelt lobby. Okey? 

    WE
    CAN'T
    MAKE
    HAVING
    GUNS IN SOCIETY
    SAFER AND MORE SOUND
    BECAUSE
    REASONS

    You know what's funny (but not really haha funny) is that the only place, the ONLY place I've seen the gun issue entering conversation related to the Democratic primary is this Pearl Jam, A Moving Train forum.  This place seems to be obsessed with the whole gun thing.  Weird, just weird.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    edited March 2020
    brianlux said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People even having a thing like Guns being an issue is and I guess never will not be mindblowing to me.

    It like if someone would have "Cars" as an issue. 

    Chuck Todd: But Mr candidate, you are avoiding the question -- in 1984 you voted for having seatbelts on being a law. Did you not?

    Candidate: All I can tell you Todd, is that I have a D minus grade from the seatbelt lobby. Okey? 

    WE
    CAN'T
    MAKE
    HAVING
    GUNS IN SOCIETY
    SAFER AND MORE SOUND
    BECAUSE
    REASONS

    You know what's funny (but not really haha funny) is that the only place, the ONLY place I've seen the gun issue entering conversation related to the Democratic primary is this Pearl Jam, A Moving Train forum.  This place seems to be obsessed with the whole gun thing.  Weird, just weird.
    All those fans who bought this shirt in the early 90s...



    ... and were all "1 out of 10 is pretty good, but hopefully we can make it 2 out of 10 in the future" 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I’ve seen it elsewhere, just as other (sometimes polarizing) issues arise. 

    I don’t know that it’s an obsession if some discuss it as one of their considerations in regards to the election. 

    May not be my thing, but maybe mine isn’t theirs either. 

    One man’s treasure and all...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    hedonist said:
    I’ve seen it elsewhere, just as other (sometimes polarizing) issues arise. 

    I don’t know that it’s an obsession if some discuss it as one of their considerations in regards to the election. 

    May not be my thing, but maybe mine isn’t theirs either. 

    One man’s treasure and all...
    I didn’t write the article but it is obviously a big issue for a lot of people. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    This article is me:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/liberal-gun-owners-face-dilemma-193255043.html
    single issue voter
    says more about you, than the choices you have been presented with
    would rather feed into wedge issues division politics
    inability to step back look at the big picture
    congrats
    I m not a single issue voter at all. I just agree with the article.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,029
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Oh man... what about the other 99%
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Oh man... what about the other 99%
    This is too much math for me.

    WHERE IS YANG?!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,029
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Oh man... what about the other 99%
    This is too much math for me.

    WHERE IS YANG?!
    Chilling with Steyer
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,815
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Oh man... what about the other 99%
    This is too much math for me.

    WHERE IS YANG?!

    "You rang?"

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,680
    What is the argument for not having election day on a weekend (saturday/sunday) when the most people are free from work?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What is the argument for not having election day on a weekend (saturday/sunday) when the most people are free from work?
    The argument is the same argument that Is the cause of most problems with American politics...

    ”That’s how they’ve always done it.”

    Elections should be on weekends and/or make Election Day in November a holiday....or make Veterans Day and Election Day the same day to kill two patriotic birds with one stone. 

    I‘m lucky that my polling place is a church basement where you’re right in and right out. But for folks in bigger cities? They wait in lines that could be hours. It’s a joke. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,029
    mcgruff10 said:
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    It's not 5 minutes on general election day.  It took me over an hour because of the lines.  It should be weekends or a national holiday.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    edited March 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    It's not 5 minutes on general election day.  It took me over an hour because of the lines.  It should be weekends or a national holiday.  
    I ve never waited more than two or three minutes.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,977
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    It's not 5 minutes on general election day.  It took me over an hour because of the lines.  It should be weekends or a national holiday.  
    It shouldn’t take that long to vote. If we weren’t a “I want it now” culture...multiple day voting would help. I would agree re:weekend. But look how weird people got about not getting iowa results instantaneously 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,029
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    It's not 5 minutes on general election day.  It took me over an hour because of the lines.  It should be weekends or a national holiday.  
    I ve never waited more than two or three minutes.  
    That's one experience.  Im sure you've seen voting lines on tv before right? I can tell you that big turnouts equal big lines for me.  

    A democratic government should create as few hurdles as possible to participating.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    Upon thinking about this for a minute it would make total sense to move voting day to a weekend      Or 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,239
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Polls open six am and close at 8 or 9 and we have absentee ballots.  No need to switch Election Day. Find five minutes and vote.  
    It's not 5 minutes on general election day.  It took me over an hour because of the lines.  It should be weekends or a national holiday.  
    I ve never waited more than two or three minutes.  
    That's one experience.  Im sure you've seen voting lines on tv before right? I can tell you that big turnouts equal big lines for me.  

    A democratic government should create as few hurdles as possible to participating.  
    Yeah I stand corrected, voting should be on the weekend. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,029
    mcgruff10 said:
    Upon thinking about this for a minute it would make total sense to move voting day to a weekend      Or 
    Voting on the 19th century would take place all month.  I'm not certain when it went to one day. 
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