Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

huntersthompson said:

disilluzion said:

mace1229 said:

rgambs said:

I am just surprised that people care about the fan club single at all lol
Who gives a shit? You've got a 30 year catalog of music and a brand new album of FRESH music coming out from a band that could/should have broken up before the year 2000, and your worried about the fan club single?

People act like that's what they pay their dues for, a single once a year...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are all here for the same 2 reasons, the Forum and access to the most up-to-date information, and most importantly, the access to fan club presales so we can avoid sitting in the nosebleeds with the EvenBros.

Its exactly  why I paid half my dues. The only reason I went analog over digital is because of the single. As soon as they announced the single was done I switched to digital. So yes, there is truth behind people acting like the only reason we're here is for the single.

But I do agree with you that there is a lot more going on. I don;t think about the singles until I log on and see this thread. If we never get them I'll be disappointed. It was a novelty that I enjoyed, and disappointed that the band was willing to charge me $40 (the difference in membership for 2 years) and not delivered the promised product. But I'll still be a member and still try to go to more shows.

Wouldn't you be upset if the next mystery boxes came around and when yours was delivered it just had a note that said "sorry, we ran out of posters. --SLH" but they kept your money? Or would you shrug it off and just say well we have a lot else going on, no big deal?

Your scenario about the mystery boxes isn't as far off as you would think. Mine arrived crushed, accordion style, everything destroyed. Their email reply to my pictures? All sales are final, items as is, no refunds, etc. That was a kick in the balls, and I never bought another thing from their shitty, over-priced store again. I'm digital now just for the tickets.

Not to hijack this thread on a bit of a red herring  that was tossed out above, but.....my experience was just the opposite relating to the Mystery Box.  Mine also showed up crushed "accordion style"....while I cannot be certain of all of the items still being in the box, I did note that the poster tube was definitely not in the box.  Posted a pic and 10c took care of it immediately....as in, the next day one was on the way.  I know different people have different experiences, but I have never had a encounter with the folks a 10c that wasn't professional.  Call me an apologist....I just don't have any interactions with them that would lead me to believe otherwise....
ps:  After seeing what other people got in their Mystery Boxes, I think that the only other thing that didn't make it in mine would have been the guitar picks...otherwise it looked like the thief left the other miscellaneous items....

While I'm happy that you were taken care of, it pisses me off even more at the same time, to see their lack of consistency. I saw someone else had a damaged box on fb maybe? I don't remember where, but anyway, they were rewarded with a signed baseball and some rare posters or something. I wasn't asking for or expecting anything like that, but told be told to fuck off? I really wasn't expecting that.

Tim Simmons said:

But yeah, there’s only been like 5 or 6 singles I’ve played more than 2-3 times. 

Singles are exhausting...put them on the turntable, put the needle down, sit down...realize that you forgot to change it from 33 1/3 rpm to 45...get up, adjust the speed...listen to (at the most) four minutes of music...flip the single to listen to the b side....hear nothing but scratching because it is the etched side of DotC...go back to your phone and listen to it on Apple music....
It is fun to look at the covers though....

huntersthompson said:

disilluzion said:

mace1229 said:

rgambs said:

I am just surprised that people care about the fan club single at all lol
Who gives a shit? You've got a 30 year catalog of music and a brand new album of FRESH music coming out from a band that could/should have broken up before the year 2000, and your worried about the fan club single?

People act like that's what they pay their dues for, a single once a year...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are all here for the same 2 reasons, the Forum and access to the most up-to-date information, and most importantly, the access to fan club presales so we can avoid sitting in the nosebleeds with the EvenBros.

Its exactly  why I paid half my dues. The only reason I went analog over digital is because of the single. As soon as they announced the single was done I switched to digital. So yes, there is truth behind people acting like the only reason we're here is for the single.

But I do agree with you that there is a lot more going on. I don;t think about the singles until I log on and see this thread. If we never get them I'll be disappointed. It was a novelty that I enjoyed, and disappointed that the band was willing to charge me $40 (the difference in membership for 2 years) and not delivered the promised product. But I'll still be a member and still try to go to more shows.

Wouldn't you be upset if the next mystery boxes came around and when yours was delivered it just had a note that said "sorry, we ran out of posters. --SLH" but they kept your money? Or would you shrug it off and just say well we have a lot else going on, no big deal?

Your scenario about the mystery boxes isn't as far off as you would think. Mine arrived crushed, accordion style, everything destroyed. Their email reply to my pictures? All sales are final, items as is, no refunds, etc. That was a kick in the balls, and I never bought another thing from their shitty, over-priced store again. I'm digital now just for the tickets.

Not to hijack this thread on a bit of a red herring  that was tossed out above, but.....my experience was just the opposite relating to the Mystery Box.  Mine also showed up crushed "accordion style"....while I cannot be certain of all of the items still being in the box, I did note that the poster tube was definitely not in the box.  Posted a pic and 10c took care of it immediately....as in, the next day one was on the way.  I know different people have different experiences, but I have never had a encounter with the folks a 10c that wasn't professional.  Call me an apologist....I just don't have any interactions with them that would lead me to believe otherwise....
ps:  After seeing what other people got in their Mystery Boxes, I think that the only other thing that didn't make it in mine would have been the guitar picks...otherwise it looked like the thief left the other miscellaneous items....

So what were the replacement posters? Did you get 2 baby brains?

The great thing about this thread is that you could stay away for weeks and then come back after missing dozens of pages of comments, yet the discussion is exactly where you left it.

HughFreakingDillon said:

Vedd Hedd said:

disilluzion said:

Vedd Hedd said:

disilluzion said:

rgambs said:

I am just surprised that people care about the fan club single at all lol
Who gives a shit? You've got a 30 year catalog of music and a brand new album of FRESH music coming out from a band that could/should have broken up before the year 2000, and your worried about the fan club single?

People act like that's what they pay their dues for, a single once a year...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are all here for the same 2 reasons, the Forum and access to the most up-to-date information, and most importantly, the access to fan club presales so we can avoid sitting in the nosebleeds with the EvenBros.

I signed up back in the '90s for ticket access. The single was a nice bonus that I didn't even know about when I originally signed up, and also the reason that I kept renewing. So, to answer your question, a lot of people care about the singles. I'm also one of the few that could give a rat's ass about a new album. There are so many great songs that will be bumped from the setlist now, but I'm not complaining about it either, just stating my opinion.

So you DONT care about the new album....but you DO care that previous 10C singles were released digitally?  

They werent re-released as vinyl singles, correct?

Replace digitally with commercially. And then explain what any of this has to do with the new album.

So, when you say commercially....I'm still confused.  Did they release these singles as vinyl singles?  Or did they release them via itunes, amazon, spotify, etc....

This has nothing to do with the new album.  I'm just confused as to why someone would be upset that, say, "Someday at Christmas" was released to everyone, but not be excited about a full album of new music. 

i think they recently released them digitally over christmas. wasn't that the 12 days of xmas they were doing on social media? I thought they posted a new track for purchase each day or something? I'm not sure. 

that's neither here nor there for me personally, but i can see why that would annoy some. it's weird to charge people for an exclusive item and then later release it publicly for a fraction of the cost. mind you, it only makes sense they make SOME money off the tracks that were ripped and uploaded to the net. I can't say I blame them for that. 

I just checked the website, and a number of them are available as vinyl singles. 

That doesnt bother me, but that might bother the "collector" who cares about the end value. 

But I still dont understand why a person would care that much about that, at the same time not caring about a new album. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

Vedd Hedd said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Vedd Hedd said:

disilluzion said:

Vedd Hedd said:

disilluzion said:

rgambs said:

I am just surprised that people care about the fan club single at all lol
Who gives a shit? You've got a 30 year catalog of music and a brand new album of FRESH music coming out from a band that could/should have broken up before the year 2000, and your worried about the fan club single?

People act like that's what they pay their dues for, a single once a year...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are all here for the same 2 reasons, the Forum and access to the most up-to-date information, and most importantly, the access to fan club presales so we can avoid sitting in the nosebleeds with the EvenBros.

I signed up back in the '90s for ticket access. The single was a nice bonus that I didn't even know about when I originally signed up, and also the reason that I kept renewing. So, to answer your question, a lot of people care about the singles. I'm also one of the few that could give a rat's ass about a new album. There are so many great songs that will be bumped from the setlist now, but I'm not complaining about it either, just stating my opinion.

So you DONT care about the new album....but you DO care that previous 10C singles were released digitally?  

They werent re-released as vinyl singles, correct?

Replace digitally with commercially. And then explain what any of this has to do with the new album.

So, when you say commercially....I'm still confused.  Did they release these singles as vinyl singles?  Or did they release them via itunes, amazon, spotify, etc....

This has nothing to do with the new album.  I'm just confused as to why someone would be upset that, say, "Someday at Christmas" was released to everyone, but not be excited about a full album of new music. 

i think they recently released them digitally over christmas. wasn't that the 12 days of xmas they were doing on social media? I thought they posted a new track for purchase each day or something? I'm not sure. 

that's neither here nor there for me personally, but i can see why that would annoy some. it's weird to charge people for an exclusive item and then later release it publicly for a fraction of the cost. mind you, it only makes sense they make SOME money off the tracks that were ripped and uploaded to the net. I can't say I blame them for that. 

I just checked the website, and a number of them are available as vinyl singles. 

That doesnt bother me, but that might bother the "collector" who cares about the end value. 

But I still dont understand why a person would care that much about that, at the same time not caring about a new album. 

I guess I'm not following as to what one has to do with the other?

I guess my point here is....

"Oh man...my fan club singles were released to the general public, those were MINE! I am a loyal fan club member, and those should only be for me!"
coupled with 
"Oh, they have a new album?  Not interested"

Like, you love the band so much to the point where you are upset that some random fan club singles are released commercially so others could hear them.....yet, dont like them enough to be interested in their next album?

@Vedd Hedd first time I looked at the porch today.

PJ created the singles for paying fan club members (they even apologized when the Last Kiss stuff happened) and they said that they would always be fan-exclusive. Now they are charging money for them, no longer fan-exclusive. It may not seem like a big deal, and it's not, really, but what was once exclusive to us is now being sold for profit. I was just using that as an example of how they seem to care less and less about us each passing year. I'm really not all that bent out of shape about it, just one of many examples I could have used.

As for the new album, maybe I'm too old to appreciate new music? I'm sure at least half of it will be good, but how many classic rock concerts do you go to where you get excited when the band says, "and here's one from our new album"? Or maybe it's because I haven't cared for the last two songs? I dunno, but to the people that are excited for new music, then more power to them! Doesn't mean I can't share my opinion though. I'm still unsure what the two have to do with each other.

These missing singles are dividing the PJ community!!! LOL

And to relate to @HughFreakingDillon last post. DMB released a vinyl box set for their 25th anniversary. I think it was $200 but they swore that it was the only way it would be released. A few months later, $50 FLAC files were available. I was just a little bit pissed.