Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

Tim Simmons said:

I think it was more calls for patience at that point. It was when that one dude called the Washington AG is when this thread went off the rails.

I mocked the AG call as much as anyone. Sadly it was the only thing that actually got a response from 10c.

disilluzion said:

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PB11041 said:

disilluzion said:

To answer the question above, if we don't get these by EOY, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started a class action suit. Not me, as that sounds like WAY too much work, but I'm sure there are many that would.

And to touch on the personal feel of said singles: Them recently releasing them all for profit, the exact opposite of their original intention, further solidifies that they are a business first and band second.

I also remember when people bought their records vs streaming single songs or out right robbing them.

So...yeah, they are trying to making a living off their music, no shit.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. The fan club singles were always for the fan club only, not to be sold, not to hit radio, not to make a profit on, etc. They were strictly for the fan club. This has all changed, and has nothing to do with their commercial releases. 

You mentioning people buying their records does not apply since these were never for sale commercially in the first place. But I guess 'no shit' is a good enough response, and all that can be expected from most people here, rather than an insightful discussion.

so we really rolling back to the fact that a fanclub member played Last Kiss either on the radio or for someone with radio ties, it became a hit, the band sold that one side of the single to make a boatload of money for refugees in Kosovo and that is a problem how?  Or that they decided at this stage to put the singles on streaming services, is that a foul somehow, how cares, I already have the vinyl and they send a digital download for them all in the last ten years, and people rip them and share them illegally all over the interwebs as is.

They stopped becoming strictly for the club the moment one person pressed upload and ten thousand pressed download.

HughFreakingDillon said:

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100 Pacer said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think it was more calls for patience at that point. It was when that one dude called the Washington AG is when this thread went off the rails.

He actually called?! 

Wow.

or sent a letter or something. didn't he get a letter back?

I'm not going on a thread digging mission, but I swear that he wrote to Washington AG a second time and they stated that 10c didn't respond.  

It's a bummer, but I'll hang out.  My big concern this year is getting my child to pass Chemistry and Geometry.  

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disilluzion said:

PB11041 said:

disilluzion said:

To answer the question above, if we don't get these by EOY, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started a class action suit. Not me, as that sounds like WAY too much work, but I'm sure there are many that would.

And to touch on the personal feel of said singles: Them recently releasing them all for profit, the exact opposite of their original intention, further solidifies that they are a business first and band second.

I also remember when people bought their records vs streaming single songs or out right robbing them.

So...yeah, they are trying to making a living off their music, no shit.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. The fan club singles were always for the fan club only, not to be sold, not to hit radio, not to make a profit on, etc. They were strictly for the fan club. This has all changed, and has nothing to do with their commercial releases. 

You mentioning people buying their records does not apply since these were never for sale commercially in the first place. But I guess 'no shit' is a good enough response, and all that can be expected from most people here, rather than an insightful discussion.

so we really rolling back to the fact that a fanclub member played Last Kiss either on the radio or for someone with radio ties, it became a hit, the band sold that one side of the single to make a boatload of money for refugees in Kosovo and that is a problem how?  Or that they decided at this stage to put the singles on streaming services, is that a foul somehow, how cares, I already have the vinyl and they send a digital download for them all in the last ten years, and people rip them and share them illegally all over the interwebs as is.

They stopped becoming strictly for the club the moment one person pressed upload and ten thousand pressed download.

so if i break into an exclusive golf country club, they won't kick me out because now i can claim it's no longer exclusive and i have a right to be there?

wicked! 

sgtppr67 said:

Well i hope every fan who meets the members of the band out on the road during the 2020 tours asks them about these singles. I doubt they know or even think about them

Ask Stone at breakfast!

HughFreakingDillon said:

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PB11041 said:

disilluzion said:

PB11041 said:

disilluzion said:

To answer the question above, if we don't get these by EOY, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started a class action suit. Not me, as that sounds like WAY too much work, but I'm sure there are many that would.

And to touch on the personal feel of said singles: Them recently releasing them all for profit, the exact opposite of their original intention, further solidifies that they are a business first and band second.

I also remember when people bought their records vs streaming single songs or out right robbing them.

So...yeah, they are trying to making a living off their music, no shit.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. The fan club singles were always for the fan club only, not to be sold, not to hit radio, not to make a profit on, etc. They were strictly for the fan club. This has all changed, and has nothing to do with their commercial releases. 

You mentioning people buying their records does not apply since these were never for sale commercially in the first place. But I guess 'no shit' is a good enough response, and all that can be expected from most people here, rather than an insightful discussion.

so we really rolling back to the fact that a fanclub member played Last Kiss either on the radio or for someone with radio ties, it became a hit, the band sold that one side of the single to make a boatload of money for refugees in Kosovo and that is a problem how?  Or that they decided at this stage to put the singles on streaming services, is that a foul somehow, how cares, I already have the vinyl and they send a digital download for them all in the last ten years, and people rip them and share them illegally all over the interwebs as is.

They stopped becoming strictly for the club the moment one person pressed upload and ten thousand pressed download.

so if i break into an exclusive golf country club, they won't kick me out because now i can claim it's no longer exclusive and i have a right to be there?

wicked! 

That is a great analogy.

If you are being completely obtuse. 

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JimmyV said:

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HughFreakingDillon said:

i'm not sure why the "just let it go already" crowd continue to comment and bump this thread and antagonize. just ignore it if it bothers you so much or doesn't apply to you. if something doesn't bother me, I generally don't waste my time badgering those that are. 

Also, with a new album and tour around the corner, why bitch about this now? I want the Ten Club singles too, but they've fallen down the priority ladder with everything else going on in PJ-world. 

I hear what you are saying, but at the same time I think for the very reasons you mention this is a more than appropriate time to question where these are. 2019 was so quiet - no album, no shows, not much of anything going on - I did wonder if we were at the end. Were the missing singles just a casualty of there not really being a Pearl Jam anymore? But now with an album and tour we know for sure that is not true. So asking where these are and why is not out of line. That doing so seems to trigger some people continues to be a strange phenomenon. 

This is gaslighting. What triggers a response is people smearing the band/10C or threatening legal action. If people were only expressing disappointment or asking what's up, this wouldn't be a contentious thread.

Who the hell made you the judge of what is proper or improper in this thread?

Might I direct you to the tai chi or yoga thread?

(Are there tai chi or yoga threads?)

Let's all calm down and not reward trolling behavior by getting the thread locked. 

JimmyV said:

Let's all calm down and not reward trolling behavior by getting the thread locked. 

When all you have left is ad hominem insults...