RIP Kobe Bryant

Jason P · January 2020

Gambling had nothing to do with Pete retiring temporarily and then coming back to play basketball with Washington. I’d bet someone that said otherwise.

ed243421 · January 2020

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

Ledbetterman10 · January 2020

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

mrussel1 · January 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

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ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Sorano couldn't hit a curve ball either, until he told Jobu to fuck off.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension

tempo_n_groove · January 2020

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

His baseball career was not promising... Interesting article but no, I didn't buy it then and I am not romanticizing it now...

Ledbetterman10 · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Sorano couldn't hit a curve ball either, until he told Jobu to fuck off.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension

To me, that article is tantamount to an article explaining why the Earth is flat. If you wanna believe either, go ahead.

bbiggs · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Sorano couldn't hit a curve ball either, until he told Jobu to fuck off.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension

I thought you meant Alfonso until you mentioned Jobu. You would have been correct there as well.

mrussel1 · January 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

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mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Sorano couldn't hit a curve ball either, until he told Jobu to fuck off.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension

To me, that article is tantamount to an article explaining why the Earth is flat. If you wanna believe either, go ahead.

Hardly... because as I said in the Dem thread, there's empirical evidence on the Earth. There is not here.

To me it's more like the multi-shooter/CIA theories on Kennedy. Is it true? Probably not. Could it be true? Absolutely.

DewieCox · January 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

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ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Ledbetterman10 · January 2020

DewieCox said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

I don't disagree that being MJ would be reason #1 why the White Sox would ever consider bringing him up. But I truly think he could have held his own for a few years as a very low-level MLB player.

And too bad for any potential Birmingham Barons right-fielders that had that spot taken away for a year.

mrussel1 · January 2020

DewieCox said:

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Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

tempo_n_groove · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

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DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

DewieCox · January 2020

I think it was more of a preemptive response in that respect. More, putting some space between the league and Jordan and his seemingly runaway gambling issue.

There was definitely some heat on him. Whether they could find anything punishabld is another conversation hut any ties to gambling of the magnitude he took part in are generally a bad look for any pro athlete, let alone the face of American sports. I think there has to be more to his retirement than some dream to play baseball or his dad seeing his last game or lack of competition in the NBA.

mrussel1 · January 2020

tempo_n_groove said:

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mrussel1 said:

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

It was my understanding that there was an NBA investigation in action.

MedozK · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

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tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

It was my understanding that there was an NBA investigation in action.

A great example of fake news.

mrussel1 · January 2020

MedozK said:

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mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

It was my understanding that there was an NBA investigation in action.

A great example of fake news.

Not according to a contemporaneous account from the NY times or the statement by Stern. https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/09/sports/nba-probe-clears-jordan.html

tempo_n_groove · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

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MedozK said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

It was my understanding that there was an NBA investigation in action.

A great example of fake news.

Not according to a contemporaneous account from the NY times or the statement by Stern.  https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/09/sports/nba-probe-clears-jordan.html

This isn't heat. I remember when this went down too. EVERYONE knew Jordan was a competitor and gambling man. He would bet 25k on a damn putt.

The rumors started to fly after he retired but never grew any legs.

mrussel1 · January 2020

tempo_n_groove said:

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mrussel1 said:

MedozK said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

ed243421 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449232/the-true-story-michael-jordan-brief-promising-baseball-career

I don't want to make this Kobe thread into a thread about Michael's baseball career.....because I can talk about his baseball career for days. I loved it. My thought at the time was he was too good for everyone else in the NBA, so he was trying to give himself a new challenge, largely because of his and his recently murdered father's love of baseball. And was on his way to being a serviceable major leaguer too. Sure he would have batted 9th and played right field...but maybe he'd work his way to batting 8th, or even 7th.

I didn't click your link so this off the top of my head, but after not playing baseball for over 10 years, and hopping into professional double-A ball, he batted .202 with 3 HRs, 50 RBIs, and 30 stolen bases. And that average skews low because in his first month or so, he really, really struggled against breaking balls. But can ya blame him? These are pitchers that can be called up to MLB in a moment's notice. Following his season with the Birmingham Barons, he played for a fall league team called the Scorpions and batted over .250 (maybe even over .260, I can't remember). People that dismiss his baseball tenure as some sort of joke just don't get it, or maybe just don't get him. And anyone that thinks he played baseball because of some NBA suspension is just gullible to conspiracy theories.

Get out of here with this shit. He was never going to play in the majors and really just took potential opportunities for actual talent to break through. Only got his spot because he’s MJ.

Funny the conspiracy thing came up. I just watched a video on YouTube about it this morning. Don’t think he was suspended but I think his gambling issues and possibly a discussion between he and Stern combined with all the other aspects played a part. The video said that Jordan’s dad wasn’t report missing for almost a month, and his birthday was during that time. Seems strange.

Always great to see what conspiracies that pop up with these types of events. Have a buddy that buys into some pretty zany stuff.

Yes, I agree with this. I'm not necessarily saying that Stern actually suspended him. That's a poor choice of words on my part. But an agreement to exit the sport, close the investigation, etc. is entirely within the realm of possibility. Think of it as a mutual walk away, let the heat blow over.

Thing is, there was never any "heat".

If a story was there it would have come out by now and not just the depths of conspiracy theorists on youtube.

It was my understanding that there was an NBA investigation in action.

A great example of fake news.

Not according to a contemporaneous account from the NY times or the statement by Stern.  https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/09/sports/nba-probe-clears-jordan.html

This isn't heat. I remember when this went down too. EVERYONE knew Jordan was a competitor and gambling man. He would bet 25k on a damn putt.

The rumors started to fly after he retired but never grew any legs.

Well it's an investigation. You're arguing the semantics of my slang. Either way, it's not fake news.

MedozK · February 2020

Just ways to try and make ones favorite athlete better than others, by trying to find negative things about others... very Trumpesque.

mrussel1 · February 2020

MedozK said:

Just ways to try and make ones favorite athlete better than others, by trying to find negative things about others... very Trumpesque.

Oh give me a break. You think this is what I do? Im a Lebron guy because im from Cleveland, but I don't take anything from Jordan's game. It's also not like any of us have influence. We're just shooting the shit on a rock band board.

RIP Kobe Bryant

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