***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***
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He wasn't charged with a statutory crime. I thought we all finally came to a consensus on the trouble with consent in this scenario last year.mrussel1 said:
That's not criminal sexual assault.pjl44 said:
Executive/intern dynamic. Has the tide swung back around on that in 2020?mrussel1 said:
She didn't consent? That's news to me.pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.
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How do you blame the senators and Clinton for something in 98 that we decided in the last few years was really bad? Ex post factopjl44 said:
He wasn't charged with a statutory crime. I thought we all finally came to a consensus on the trouble with consent in this scenario last year.mrussel1 said:
That's not criminal sexual assault.pjl44 said:
Executive/intern dynamic. Has the tide swung back around on that in 2020?mrussel1 said:
She didn't consent? That's news to me.pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.0 -
Well it's 2 separate things:mrussel1 said:
How do you blame the senators and Clinton for something in 98 that we decided in the last few years was really bad? Ex post factopjl44 said:
He wasn't charged with a statutory crime. I thought we all finally came to a consensus on the trouble with consent in this scenario last year.mrussel1 said:
That's not criminal sexual assault.pjl44 said:
Executive/intern dynamic. Has the tide swung back around on that in 2020?mrussel1 said:
She didn't consent? That's news to me.pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.
For the senators, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of getting red-assed over what the Republicans are doing this time around as being a uniquely Republican thing. I think it sucks in either case.
With Clinton, he has a documented history of being a sexual predator. If this were an isolated incident, you could chalk it up as an affair. As it stands, his record on this shit should not play in any era. We just have a way of turning a blind eye, especially in a case where it's politically inconvenient. See also: Ted Kennedy.0 -
Hey guess what? It’s 2020 and this is the Team Trump Treason impeachment. Clinton isn’t on trial and neither is Biden. You want Team Trump Treason to beat the rap? Advocate for witnesses and documents and prove to the American people that it was a “perfect” call.pjl44 said:
Well it's 2 separate things:mrussel1 said:
How do you blame the senators and Clinton for something in 98 that we decided in the last few years was really bad? Ex post factopjl44 said:
He wasn't charged with a statutory crime. I thought we all finally came to a consensus on the trouble with consent in this scenario last year.mrussel1 said:
That's not criminal sexual assault.pjl44 said:
Executive/intern dynamic. Has the tide swung back around on that in 2020?mrussel1 said:
She didn't consent? That's news to me.pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.
For the senators, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of getting red-assed over what the Republicans are doing this time around as being a uniquely Republican thing. I think it sucks in either case.
With Clinton, he has a documented history of being a sexual predator. If this were an isolated incident, you could chalk it up as an affair. As it stands, his record on this shit should not play in any era. We just have a way of turning a blind eye, especially in a case where it's politically inconvenient. See also: Ted Kennedy.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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False equivalencypjl44 said:
Well it's 2 separate things:mrussel1 said:
How do you blame the senators and Clinton for something in 98 that we decided in the last few years was really bad? Ex post factopjl44 said:
He wasn't charged with a statutory crime. I thought we all finally came to a consensus on the trouble with consent in this scenario last year.mrussel1 said:
That's not criminal sexual assault.pjl44 said:
Executive/intern dynamic. Has the tide swung back around on that in 2020?mrussel1 said:
She didn't consent? That's news to me.pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.
For the senators, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of getting red-assed over what the Republicans are doing this time around as being a uniquely Republican thing. I think it sucks in either case.
With Clinton, he has a documented history of being a sexual predator. If this were an isolated incident, you could chalk it up as an affair. As it stands, his record on this shit should not play in any era. We just have a way of turning a blind eye, especially in a case where it's politically inconvenient. See also: Ted Kennedy.
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pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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2018The woman who was sexually assaulted back in the 90's by then private citizen Donald J. Trump in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room?
She's looking for his DNA.“I’ll say it with great respect,” he said in an interview with The Hill, a Capitol Hill news organization. “No. 1, she’s not my type. No. 2, it never happened. It never happened, O.K.?”
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2018He is such a POS. It's really staggering.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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2018Will be exonerated by this weekend will get tons of donor support and will easily win re-election, this country loves corruption....time to move onjesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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2018But but Bill Clinton & Hillary ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Sexually assaulted may be too far. Sexually preyed upon? Sexually harrassed?mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16.0 -
Preyed upon, sure. Although there are plenty of examples in history of young girls being attracted to men in power. But I took issue with your statement of "assault", which I believe is only used criminally, although I may be wrong about that.pjl44 said:
Sexually assaulted may be too far. Sexually preyed upon? Sexually harrassed?mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16.0 -
do we know who seduced who?pjl44 said:
Sexually assaulted may be too far. Sexually preyed upon? Sexually harrassed?mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16.
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Yeah, I don't know if it has a strict connotation. Either way, I think expecting high ranking public officials to not have sex with staffers and interns is a more than reasonable standard. Especially the President. Hell, it just got Katie Hill bounced.mrussel1 said:
Preyed upon, sure. Although there are plenty of examples in history of young girls being attracted to men in power. But I took issue with your statement of "assault", which I believe is only used criminally, although I may be wrong about that.pjl44 said:
Sexually assaulted may be too far. Sexually preyed upon? Sexually harrassed?mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16.0 -
I think expecting the highest ranking official not to extort, bribe and shake down officials of other nations so that they’ll do your dirty work for you in violation of US law is way more than a reasonable standard.pjl44 said:
Yeah, I don't know if it has a strict connotation. Either way, I think expecting high ranking public officials to not have sex with staffers and interns is a more than reasonable standard. Especially the President. Hell, it just got Katie Hill bounced.mrussel1 said:
Preyed upon, sure. Although there are plenty of examples in history of young girls being attracted to men in power. But I took issue with your statement of "assault", which I believe is only used criminally, although I may be wrong about that.pjl44 said:
Sexually assaulted may be too far. Sexually preyed upon? Sexually harrassed?mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
Trump is guilty of all of that and should be removed from office. Clinton sexually assaulted an intern and lied about it under oath. There's plenty of room to acknowledge they're both pieces of shit.gimmesometruth27 said:
i love that you are downplaying the fact that trump has committed actual crimes, and has lied repeatedly about them to cover them up, has withheld evidence, demanded people to defy subpoenas and not testify. this is completely different than the clinton impeachment. so please do not compare apples to oranges.pjl44 said:1999 roll call vote from the Clinton impeachment to subpoena witnesses and submit new evidence. Look at the 44 Democrats who threatened the underpinnings of our democracy!
They should definitely be calling witnesses, but just remember this is an age old partisan stunt the next time you light your hair on fire over concern for The Republic.interesting. monica says she was a willing party and willingly owns her part of that.inappropriate conduct with a subordinate absolutely, but if the so called victim in this case doesnt feel she was a victim or victimized in this "relationship" how is it sexual assault?now the character assassination after the fact I think was far more harmful to her as she had the whole country in ridicule bully mode.look for her ted talks and I think it was vanity fair in 16.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Clinton wasn't.....mrussel1 said:
Agreed. However, would you have been fired in 1997 for that? Maybe, maybe not?OnWis97 said:Clinton analogous to if I were to have sex with a college-age intern at work. It’s not illegal. But it’s inappropriate and I would deservedly be fired.
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