RIP Kobe Bryant
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Bill Simmons has a retrospective podcast on Kobe up if anyone interested2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:CM189191 said:Couldn't have happened to a nicer rapist
Epstein was a talented hedge fund manager. Weinstein was a talented producer. OJ was a talented football player. Phil Spector was a talented producer. They're still all criminals.
Good riddance Kobe
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CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:My thoughts, he made a huge mistake that people in power/ money feel entitled to with no consequences. Probably the first time in his life that he couldn't cover it up as he was a pro from HS. From there, he did reform. Fixed his family, publicly apologized and did do a lot of charity work. Definitely one of the best ever players but questionable morals for half his life. I feel terrible for his wife and surviving children.And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p****. You can do anything.0
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Mark Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks have permanently retired the #24.0
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mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:My thoughts, he made a huge mistake that people in power/ money feel entitled to with no consequences. Probably the first time in his life that he couldn't cover it up as he was a pro from HS. From there, he did reform. Fixed his family, publicly apologized and did do a lot of charity work. Definitely one of the best ever players but questionable morals for half his life. I feel terrible for his wife and surviving children.And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p****. You can do anything.
Rapists = bad ?
That the world is a better place with one less rapist in it?
That point of view?0 -
pjhawks said:CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:CM189191 said:Couldn't have happened to a nicer rapist
Epstein was a talented hedge fund manager. Weinstein was a talented producer. OJ was a talented football player. Phil Spector was a talented producer. They're still all criminals.
Good riddance Kobe
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CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:My thoughts, he made a huge mistake that people in power/ money feel entitled to with no consequences. Probably the first time in his life that he couldn't cover it up as he was a pro from HS. From there, he did reform. Fixed his family, publicly apologized and did do a lot of charity work. Definitely one of the best ever players but questionable morals for half his life. I feel terrible for his wife and surviving children.And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p****. You can do anything.
Rapists = bad ?
That the world is a better place with one less rapist in it?
That point of view?0 -
2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Such a strange day. Saw the tweet from Woj and my first thought was that his twitter account got hacked.Saturday night’s NBA showcase was all about Kobe and Lebron. Life is short, man.0
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mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:My thoughts, he made a huge mistake that people in power/ money feel entitled to with no consequences. Probably the first time in his life that he couldn't cover it up as he was a pro from HS. From there, he did reform. Fixed his family, publicly apologized and did do a lot of charity work. Definitely one of the best ever players but questionable morals for half his life. I feel terrible for his wife and surviving children.And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p****. You can do anything.
Rapists = bad ?
That the world is a better place with one less rapist in it?
That point of view?
I believe in redemption
Remind me again how many days Kobe spent in jail?0 -
Listen to yellow Ledbetter in Jacksonville. Eddie says “bye kobe bye Kobe“ it was his last game that night. So sadSome die just to live0
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Ledbetterman10 said:So far no statement from A.I. He was on ABC last night praising Kobe.0
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ogre1213 said:Listen to yellow Ledbetter in Jacksonville. Eddie says “bye kobe bye Kobe“ it was his last game that night. So sad0
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gimmesometruth27 said:Cliffy6745 said:TMZ reported its before the family was informed0
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CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mrussel1 said:CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:My thoughts, he made a huge mistake that people in power/ money feel entitled to with no consequences. Probably the first time in his life that he couldn't cover it up as he was a pro from HS. From there, he did reform. Fixed his family, publicly apologized and did do a lot of charity work. Definitely one of the best ever players but questionable morals for half his life. I feel terrible for his wife and surviving children.And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the p****. You can do anything.
Rapists = bad ?
That the world is a better place with one less rapist in it?
That point of view?
I believe in redemption
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Redemption requires an acknowledgement and admission of guilt and honest efforts to make amends to the person harmed. Do people think that adequately happened?my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Amazing tribute written by Derek Jeter.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/derek-jeter-kobe-bryant-tribute
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Cliffy6745 said:I will say, while I completely disagree with the way the other poster put it, there is a fine line that espn is completely ignoring, calling him and amazing individual and person. An amazing basketball player for sure, an icon in American sports but maybe a kinda shitty person. He was credibly accused of rape and I can’t imagine that girl has the same glowing feeling about the guy.
No one deserves what happened. The pictures of him and his daughter are heartbreaking and tragic. But it also probably sucks for that girl to hear everyone glowing uncontrollably about the guy.
well put, cliffy.If I had known then what I know now...
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French Quarter love——- Second Line Parade in New Orleans took place today for Kobe.0
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oftenreading said:Redemption requires an acknowledgement and admission of guilt and honest efforts to make amends to the person harmed. Do people think that adequately happened?
First, I want to apologize directly to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colorado.
I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.
I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado
And look at everything he did for youth and women's sports for past decade... and again, we have three young girls without a father. I think we can dance another day.
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