***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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    josevolution said:
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    Yeah that’s how I feel about Schiff he seems totally focused on the job at hand ..

    Having prosecuted the only FBI agent charged with spying, you’re damn right they fear him.
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    Unique restrictions on the press coverage of senators on the hill during impeachment. What are they hiding if the phone call was “perfect?”

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    Fascinating how the founding fathers understood the tendency of pols to talk and talk and talk and shape reality to their liking and try and win an evening news cycle. It'll be refreshing to watch reality and decide for ourselves.
    j/k. Pretty sure the press restrictions were decided by previous impeachment votes on the rules.

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    And there you have it


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  • Posts: 42,794
    pjl44 said:
    And there you have it


    Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
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    Don't miss Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight.  He says tRump knew about everything.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Have what? That Nancy made a calculated play to appoint all qualified dems rather than a former repub who’s voting record doesn’t mirror the dem caucus? Nancy needs every dem in on this, not one former repub “indie.”
    An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes 
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Don't miss Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight.  He says tRump knew about everything.
    i think republicans and trump supporters can easily say that he'll say anything to get a deal. whether he is truthful or not, unfortunately, i don't think will matter. 
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    pjl44 said:
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    An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes 
    I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
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    pjl44 said:
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    An insular, exclusive team of impeachment managers led by Adam Schiff is surely the way to peel off some Republican votes 
    It’s not the party or the individuals presenting the case, it’s the evidence they present and the repub response in their defense of Team Trump Treason. The fact that you’re focused on the “presenters” illustrate that their strategy of hammering the process and the presenters, rather than countering with documents and witnesses, is working. The coverup is on.

    Did you know that the house offered Team Trump Treason to answer questions with his attorney present before the full house committee behind closed doors? But the process was unfair and we need a former repub “indie” involved as an act of transparency?
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    mrussel1 said:
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    I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
    I think a lot of it will come down to how they comport themselves and, after watching a few different Congressional hearings over the last couple years, I have more confidence in him than most
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    As it turns out, the comportment is off to a bang-up start


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    mrussel1 said:
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    I see both sides, but I’m not sure Amash has any influence on senators.
    Why would he? Or with repub voters in his district or state? Other than having an air of independence?
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    pjl44 said:
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    I think a lot of it will come down to how they comport themselves and, after watching a few different Congressional hearings over the last couple years, I have more confidence in him than most
    To clarify, I hadn't watched any hearings in a long time. Then I saw most of Kavanaugh, a bunch of Cohen, and some of the impeachment. All bluster and grandstanding from just about everyone on both sides - few pointed questions or real probing lines to get at info. Horrible. So this should be interesting. 
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Don't miss Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight.  He says tRump knew about everything.
    What 😮 
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    pjl44 said:
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    As someone who has followed and supported Amash vigorously for a few years, this is not the case at all. You can disagree with his positions, but what you see is what you get. He was calling for impeachment based on the Mueller report, which was way ahead of many Democrats.
    i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.

    i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Don't miss Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight.  He says tRump knew about everything.
    Lev Parnas

    i love that name.

    sounds like some sort of swashbuckling smuggler from outer space. 

    think broke ass version of han solo.
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
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    i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.

    i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
    I think you nailed it Dems def don’t want any distractions against one of their prosecutors..
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
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    i agree this was a missed opportunity. i did not like him when he was a hardcore tea partier, but i have a lot of respect for him because he came out in support of impeachment based on the evidence.

    i think the dems may have not picked him because trump's defense team could go after him and say that he came out against trump because trump did not go along with some legislation he supported, or something to make it seem like he voted to impeach out of sour grapes or something. it would be too much of a distraction to the dems. i think they have a good squad here. they are looking to remove trump and i think this is the best squad they could come up with.
    When it comes to libertarians, I always tell my progressive friends to focus on the issues you have in common. You don't have to vote for them if you don't like the full slate, but there are definitely areas where you can work together.

    Look, I'll be thrilled to be wrong. That means he's getting removed or, at least, the trial really swung public opinion before the election. I am not encouraged thus far, though.

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