I still don’t see the big difference in agreeing on witnesses today or after the trial starts...either way, waiting has only increased the odds of them being called at all.
McConnell isn't guaranteeing witnesses will be called. He's saying they'll hear the arguments then decide if they'll call any.
I know he's not guaranteeing them. If he does he looks weak in comparison to Pelosi. Calling them later makes more sense for him politically than it does now as it would look like he's just giving into whatever Pelosi wants. Given polling, it would also help purple state senators.
On a related note, support for impeachment/removal is back over 50%. Combine that with even great numbers calling for witnesses, I just don't see how they get away with having a sham trial. Would only hurt them in November.
It's hard to take national polls and apply that to individual Senate races. It also doesn't tell you how important this issue is for a particular voter or block of voters. Sure, an Arizonan could favor removal of Trump, but how much does that factor into their vote for McSally? Maybe a lot, maybe not at all. Who knows.
I still wish the House had gone to the courts on Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, etc. Especially since Pelosi is holding the articles and hoping for a break anyway. Was there a need to rush or is there no need to rush? The whole thing feels sloppy to me and it's frustrating.
Let's take Colorado. HRC won by 5%. Gardner is up for reelection this year. Trump has a negative 18 net approval (39%-approve/57% disapprove) there. To me, it would be wise for Gardner to vote for witnesses after the trial starts. It's got to be obvious to him that his state is pretty much against the president so do the math.....He is also running against a popular former governor who has a substantial lead in early polling there.
McConnell has to appease Trump, but he also has to retain control of the senate. Not calling witnesses (at some point) will hurt senators up for re-election like Gardner and Collins etc....
He'll lose the primary if he does that. Yes, he will probably lose overall, but no one is ready to throw that towel in. That's why I was saying earlier that it would have been better to hold off until after primary season. But then of course you hurt the Dems that are running for President as they lose campaign time.
I don't know about that. It's not like he's voting for removal. He's just voting for witnesses. And keep in mind, these witnesses would not only be the ones that democrats will want. Looks like the primary is 6 weeks away too. Maybe his calculation would be it might trigger a primary challenge in the short term but he would still likely win...and then it would help him more in November.
I don't know. I think holding onto the articles for months would hurt the dems more than help them at this point.
That’s spot on. The first witness they’d call is Sloppy Joe.
When Joe refuses that’ll be their cover to call no more and help secure a second trump term.
”how could you possibly vote for “Shady Joe” when he is refusing to testify.”
I still don’t see the big difference in agreeing on witnesses today or after the trial starts...either way, waiting has only increased the odds of them being called at all.
McConnell isn't guaranteeing witnesses will be called. He's saying they'll hear the arguments then decide if they'll call any.
I know he's not guaranteeing them. If he does he looks weak in comparison to Pelosi. Calling them later makes more sense for him politically than it does now as it would look like he's just giving into whatever Pelosi wants. Given polling, it would also help purple state senators.
On a related note, support for impeachment/removal is back over 50%. Combine that with even great numbers calling for witnesses, I just don't see how they get away with having a sham trial. Would only hurt them in November.
It's hard to take national polls and apply that to individual Senate races. It also doesn't tell you how important this issue is for a particular voter or block of voters. Sure, an Arizonan could favor removal of Trump, but how much does that factor into their vote for McSally? Maybe a lot, maybe not at all. Who knows.
I still wish the House had gone to the courts on Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, etc. Especially since Pelosi is holding the articles and hoping for a break anyway. Was there a need to rush or is there no need to rush? The whole thing feels sloppy to me and it's frustrating.
Let's take Colorado. HRC won by 5%. Gardner is up for reelection this year. Trump has a negative 18 net approval (39%-approve/57% disapprove) there. To me, it would be wise for Gardner to vote for witnesses after the trial starts. It's got to be obvious to him that his state is pretty much against the president so do the math.....He is also running against a popular former governor who has a substantial lead in early polling there.
McConnell has to appease Trump, but he also has to retain control of the senate. Not calling witnesses (at some point) will hurt senators up for re-election like Gardner and Collins etc....
He'll lose the primary if he does that. Yes, he will probably lose overall, but no one is ready to throw that towel in. That's why I was saying earlier that it would have been better to hold off until after primary season. But then of course you hurt the Dems that are running for President as they lose campaign time.
I don't know about that. It's not like he's voting for removal. He's just voting for witnesses. And keep in mind, these witnesses would not only be the ones that democrats will want. Looks like the primary is 6 weeks away too. Maybe his calculation would be it might trigger a primary challenge in the short term but he would still likely win...and then it would help him more in November.
I don't know. I think holding onto the articles for months would hurt the dems more than help them at this point.
That’s spot on. The first witness they’d call is Sloppy Joe.
When Joe refuses that’ll be their cover to call no more and help secure a second trump term.
”how could you possibly vote for “Shady Joe” when he is refusing to testify.”
Sloppy joe is irrelevant to the articles. He can’t be called as he has no first hand knowledge of the material facts. Stop the side show. Conversely, if it was a “perfect call” and “no quid pro quo,” why wouldn’t you want material witnesses to testify on your behalf?
There are rules. Rules the Chief Justice will abide by. Why so scared of innocence?
Maybe a misleading title (altnation style) BUT does say he is now willing to testify. He may be the only man capable of preventing an orange buffoon re-election.
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It's a kid, man. Mock away, but he probably has all this stuff pushed on him at home. It's not he like said anything bad - he's obviously confused and embarrassed. There are plenty of adults to pick on.
It's a kid, man. Mock away, but he probably has all this stuff pushed on him at home. It's not he like said anything bad - he's obviously confused and embarrassed. There are plenty of adults to pick on.
i'd have to agree on this one.
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If that kid was yelling out "build the wall" or "lock her up", fine have at him. This just seems cruel.
He attended a pep rally for Team Trump Treason and yet couldn’t name one thing that Team Trump Treason has done well? What was he doing there? Just wandered in, I guess.
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If that kid was yelling out "build the wall" or "lock her up", fine have at him. This just seems cruel.
He attended a pep rally for Team Trump Treason and yet couldn’t name one thing that Team Trump Treason has done well? What was he doing there? Just wandered in, I guess.
many people get "indoctrinated" by those around us, parents, loved ones, those we look up to in general. keep the gloves on for this one.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
If that kid was yelling out "build the wall" or "lock her up", fine have at him. This just seems cruel.
He attended a pep rally for Team Trump Treason and yet couldn’t name one thing that Team Trump Treason has done well? What was he doing there? Just wandered in, I guess.
many people get "indoctrinated" by those around us, parents, loved ones, those we look up to in general. keep the gloves on for this one.
I never took them off nor criticized him other than to say how is it he attended a pep rally and couldn’t name one thing Team Trump Treason did well. Golf? Take care of the military? Create jobs? Dig coal? Pick suits? Lead chants?
If that kid was yelling out "build the wall" or "lock her up", fine have at him. This just seems cruel.
He attended a pep rally for Team Trump Treason and yet couldn’t name one thing that Team Trump Treason has done well? What was he doing there? Just wandered in, I guess.
many people get "indoctrinated" by those around us, parents, loved ones, those we look up to in general. keep the gloves on for this one.
I never took them off nor criticized him other than to say how is it he attended a pep rally and couldn’t name one thing Team Trump Treason did well. Golf? Take care of the military? Create jobs? Dig coal? Pick suits? Lead chants?
the kid could have said he tweets well for all i care. say just one thing he does well. that's it.
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remember when the tea partiers all showed up with tea bags taped to their heads? yeah that is how he looks to me. not trying to be mean. the red hat is the new tea bags in my opinion.
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That’s spot on. The first witness they’d call is Sloppy Joe.
When Joe refuses that’ll be their cover to call no more and help secure a second trump term.
”how could you possibly vote for “Shady Joe” when he is refusing to testify.”
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This is funny yet sad at the same time. And maybe I should add, pathetic.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."