***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at. At this point, the 2 things I can best hope for are:

    - Every Senator is put on record and has to answer for their vote
    - Justin Amash is named an impeachment manager and continues to raise his profile

    It would be nice if some curveball leads to a fair trial, but I'm not holding my breath
  • Kat
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    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    The Speaker gave everyone enough time to think about what they're doing and do the right thing. They should live with this forever in history. My next hope is that the Senate will be flipped in November. Surely there are enough voters with integrity who want to rid the government of corruption?
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at. At this point, the 2 things I can best hope for are:

    - Every Senator is put on record and has to answer for their vote
    - Justin Amash is named an impeachment manager and continues to raise his profile

    It would be nice if some curveball leads to a fair trial, but I'm not holding my breath
    How good will it look for senate repubs, particularly those up for re-election, to have voted to acquit while denying witnesses and introduction of documents after additional damning evidence is revealed? Hang ‘em high and let ‘em sway, here’s a little more rope Moscow Mitchy Baby.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/trump-impeachment-documents-foia/index.html
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  • dankind
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    Kat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    The Speaker gave everyone enough time to think about what they're doing and do the right thing. They should live with this forever in history. My next hope is that the Senate will be flipped in November. Surely there are enough voters with integrity who want to rid the government of corruption?
    Good one, Kat. :lol:
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Kat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    The Speaker gave everyone enough time to think about what they're doing and do the right thing. They should live with this forever in history. My next hope is that the Senate will be flipped in November. Surely there are enough voters with integrity who want to rid the government of corruption?
    people have by and large shown they don't care about corruption, as long as it benefits them. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Back on topic and about that leverage or lack thereof...




    Force the vote and put them on record for having rules that don’t allow witnesses to testify at trial. Then use that vote against them in the fall. Witnesses should exonerate Team Trump Treason’s “perfect” call and no quid pro quo, right?
    Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at. At this point, the 2 things I can best hope for are:

    - Every Senator is put on record and has to answer for their vote
    - Justin Amash is named an impeachment manager and continues to raise his profile

    It would be nice if some curveball leads to a fair trial, but I'm not holding my breath
    How good will it look for senate repubs, particularly those up for re-election, to have voted to acquit while denying witnesses and introduction of documents after additional damning evidence is revealed? Hang ‘em high and let ‘em sway, here’s a little more rope Moscow Mitchy Baby.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/trump-impeachment-documents-foia/index.html
    It's an interesting question and I'm not enough of a political junkie to guess where it will stand as an issue in each race. Word of warning, though, that it cuts both ways. Doug Jones may be facing an uphill battle as it is.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,426
    Clearly the republican politicians and voters are scared of what Bolton might have to say.

  • The Juggler
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    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,473
    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
    you betting the Pats second half?
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  • Lerxst1992
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    "THE FIELD"
    Romney comes out saying he wants Bolton to testify...



    Yeah but he wont:


    GOP moderates side with McConnell over Bolton testimony

    Democrats are unlikely to get four Republicans to vote to subpoena John Bolton.


    Romney said he was open to hearing testimony from Bolton, but he stopped short of saying he would vote with Democrats to subpoena him.


    What does it matter if they vote to have witnesses now or later? 

    Romney is tepid about going against McConnell now and later
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
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    mickeyrat said:
    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
    you betting the Pats second half?
    Haha

    There will be witnesses. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,473
    mickeyrat said:
    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
    you betting the Pats second half?
    Haha

    There will be witnesses. 
    in the gallery for sure.....
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    2019
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
    you betting the Pats second half?
    Haha

    There will be witnesses. 
    in the gallery for sure.....
    We shall see, Mick. We shall see...
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    mickeyrat said:
    I still think they call witnesses...just after the trial starts. 
    you betting the Pats second half?
    Haha

    There will be witnesses. 
    we are all witnesses. this is happening out in the open right in front of all of us.
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  • pjl44
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    Dianne Feinstein is the next to weigh in on Pelosi's masterful handling of the process


  • pjl44 said:
    Dianne Feinstein is the next to weigh in on Pelosi's masterful handling of the process


    Dianne must be needing some press?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    pjl44 said:
    Dianne Feinstein is the next to weigh in on Pelosi's masterful handling of the process


    Dianne must be needing some press?
    Chris Murphy said something similar yesterday. Sounds like she was responding to a question, but I honestly don't know how it came up.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,538
    Turns out it's from a Politico article. Similar quotes from several Senate Democrats, including our pal Jon Tester.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/senate-democrats-break-pelosi-over-impeachment-096224


  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    2019
    pjl44 said:
    Turns out it's from a Politico article. Similar quotes from several Senate Democrats, including our pal Jon Tester.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/senate-democrats-break-pelosi-over-impeachment-096224


    I still don’t see the big difference in agreeing on witnesses today or after the trial starts...either way, waiting has only increased the odds of them being called at all. 
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  • mfc2006
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    pjl44 said:
    Turns out it's from a Politico article. Similar quotes from several Senate Democrats, including our pal Jon Tester.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/senate-democrats-break-pelosi-over-impeachment-096224


    I still don’t see the big difference in agreeing on witnesses today or after the trial starts...either way, waiting has only increased the odds of them being called at all. 
    I agree. And if for some reason witnesses aren't called, I truly think the GOP will pay for it in the election.
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