Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

Gern Blansten · January 2020

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

wearing a diaper. jesus christ. who cares if he does. seriously, some older men have control issues. can you imagine them being broadcast globally?

He deserves whatever ridicule can be attributed to him. His people still think Hillary molests children in a pizza joint.

I just think it's offside to consider making fun of a medical condition as something to be embarrassed about or ok to be ridiculed about. I prefer to mock him for his actions, rather than his appearance or physical/medical issues.

If it were anyone else I wouldn't make fun. But you know for a fact that he would be tweeting about Hillary, Biden, etc. wearing a diaper if the opportunity presented itself. He deserves everything that can be thrown at him.

tbergs · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

Well one thing's for sure after the past 48 hours.. It's a good thing we assassinated the general, since it prevented an imminent attack on US personnel in the region. Imagine if the general had been alive, it's certainly possible that Iran may have rained some missiles on a US facility. Good thing the assassination acted as a clear deterrent.

The dem candidate, once determined, should be blowing up each and every tweet that Trump sent that served as his "legal" notice to Iran about what would happen if they struck any person or target so when it comes time to debate, they can make the flag waving patriots defend him. He ridicules everyone else for action or inaction, but then contradicts his own words and pretends it never happened all while predicating the whole incident on an imminent threat to the US. Not that it matters because the rebuttal talking point from supporters will probably be that Iran lost their general so that's why they didn't risk attacking personnel and then stood down so it's a good thing Trump flexed first.

Gern Blansten · January 2020

tempo_n_groove said:

Is there really a teleprompter? His eyeballs were all over the place and when he does a prepared speech I had seen him not move a lick when he did.

Just curious.

yes....either teleprompters or large screens off to the sides

Halifax2TheMax · January 2020

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

“These media posts......” I’m embarrassed. Are you? No, some of you sleep better at night because he backed down from a crisis of his own making, got bitched slapped by someone with balls in the White House or pentagon, read a prepared statement and sounded “presidential” but didn’t take questions. Which rubber room did they put him in as he hasn’t tweeted since yesterday’s big announcement of his “address.” And some on here are fine with it and “feel better.” Unfuckingbelievable.

And some just bitch about everything. You are a hoot.

Are there not tons of shit to bitch about regarding Team Trump Treason and what he and his administration have done to this nation, the constitution and international relations? You don’t seem to understand the long term harm he’s doing. All shits and giggles to you, isn’t it? You should be embarrassed but you’ve been comforted. All that was missing from that speech was a fireplace and a cardigan.

Gern Blansten · January 2020

It is hilarious how tRump rattled his tiny saber and said we would wipe out Iran if they responded and then, once they respond, he says they backed down.

mrussel1 · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter. I"m glad Obama did. A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed. My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy. So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit. My God, why did the last week even happen? The whole episode is absolutely sickening. And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.

Ledbetterman10 · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

There's no doubting that he's a total hypocrite. A dumb one too because many of his hypocrisies can be proven through old tweets of his. So I think commenting that "Trump is a hypocrite that does what he criticized Obama for" would be a pretty sensible post. His speech being tantamount to a "prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing" isn't as sensible.

tbergs · January 2020

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

Why can't we talk about things about trump without bringing all the other things into it. Can't anyone here just discuss the current event without extrapolating?

1) I know trump started this mess with a crazy assassination of an Iranian official....not good. Unsure if there was any real data/reasoning (imminent threats). I tend to think there were not, other than the obvious fact that he was always working towards potential threats. But then again, so is Putin.

Regardless of how we go to this point, his words today were at least on point (for the most part) and will allow things to settle down a little. Just as the Iranian's throwing rockets hoping to not kill people. So while I'm under no illusion that Iran will actually stop trying to hurt america and especially American interests in the middle east and I am under no illusion that trump is all calm now and won't do something stupid...I feel better than I did before his speech. Not a lot better, but a little. and at least I don't feel worse.

I understand what you are saying. Yes, things can always go worse, so yay, they haven't yet, but the problem for me anyway is that Trump is not the type of person who has ever shown any signs of caring about anything except himself, so no, he gets no credit, praise or acknowledgement until he makes a conscious effort to be a decent fucking human being. I would hold anyone else in my life to the same standard. I'm sorry, for me this reads like an abuser doing the right thing and you asking me to recognize that at least they didn't throw another punch.

See, I like tbergs's analogies! They work for me!

Rape, abuser...for fucks sake it was a speech.

Alrighty then trump sucks, all is bad, Go Blue Team! Back in line.

You can get a real sense for who someone is when they feel like they're allowed to "take the gloves off"

Yeah, I'm fine with disagreeing. No one here asking anyone else to stand up and yell go team blue or on the other side asking them to stand up wave the flag. Who cares if someone doesn't see it the same way as you? Why do people complain when someone disagrees with them?

cincybearcat · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

wearing a diaper. jesus christ. who cares if he does. seriously, some older men have control issues. can you imagine them being broadcast globally?

He deserves whatever ridicule can be attributed to him. His people still think Hillary molests children in a pizza joint.

I just think it's offside to consider making fun of a medical condition as something to be embarrassed about or ok to be ridiculed about. I prefer to mock him for his actions, rather than his appearance or physical/medical issues.

If it were anyone else I wouldn't make fun. But you know for a fact that he would be tweeting about Hillary, Biden, etc. wearing a diaper if the opportunity presented itself. He deserves everything that can be thrown at him.

You might want to rethink aiming to be like trump.

cincybearcat · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter. I"m glad Obama did. A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed. My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy. So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit. My God, why did the last week even happen? The whole episode is absolutely sickening. And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.

I'm not really sure where anyone really gave Trump "credit" for anything. Unless saying that the speech was pretty good in that it at least didn't escalate things is giving someone credit.

mrussel1 · January 2020

Let's recap:
1. JCPOA - gone. In fact, Iran had committed to sticking to it even after the US pulled out, but after the assassination, they stated they will start enriching again. And who can blame them? They need a deterrent to attack, just NK.
2. Iraq - shambles. We've blown up our relationship with the Shia majority in that country. Reset that relationship.
3. Troops - we're now adding troops to the region, not bringing them home. Increase investment of blood and treasure
4. Allies - alienated, yet again.

So while yes...this morning the chance of war has been reduced from where it was 48 hours ago, it's substantially worse than it was a week ago and infinitely worse than it was 3 years ago. This is what Trump's presidency has wrought.

I eagerly await counters to this assessment.

Gern Blansten · January 2020

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter. I"m glad Obama did. A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed. My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy. So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit. My God, why did the last week even happen? The whole episode is absolutely sickening. And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.

And there are very few people behind the scenes right now. The ones that were supposed to protect us have resigned.

tbergs · January 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

I've been told before that I take things a bit extreme. Oh well, makes it clear how I feel about it. Trump continues to rape this nation and the people of other countries with his actions, so I think it's apropos.

Well fair enough. As long as you're not one of these unhinged Trump-haters. I worry for them almost as much I worry for the unhinged Trump-lovers.

Not unhinged at all. My wife is good at reminding me my analogies are a little much. I'm a bit dark like that.

Ledbetterman10 · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

It is hilarious how tRump rattled his tiny saber and said we would wipe out Iran if they responded and then, once they respond, he says they backed down.

I'd rather he be a pussy than a warmonger.

cincybearcat · January 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

“These media posts......” I’m embarrassed. Are you? No, some of you sleep better at night because he backed down from a crisis of his own making, got bitched slapped by someone with balls in the White House or pentagon, read a prepared statement and sounded “presidential” but didn’t take questions. Which rubber room did they put him in as he hasn’t tweeted since yesterday’s big announcement of his “address.” And some on here are fine with it and “feel better.” Unfuckingbelievable.

And some just bitch about everything. You are a hoot.

Are there not tons of shit to bitch about regarding Team Trump Treason and what he and his administration have done to this nation, the constitution and international relations? You don’t seem to understand the long term harm he’s doing. All shits and giggles to you, isn’t it? You should be embarrassed but you’ve been comforted. All that was missing from that speech was a fireplace and a cardigan.

So being relieved that things didn't get worse means I'm ok with everything trump has done? This is nonsense.

And what exactly should I be embarrassed about?

tempo_n_groove · January 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Why can't we talk about things about trump without bringing all the other things into it. Can't anyone here just discuss the current event without extrapolating?

1) I know trump started this mess with a crazy assassination of an Iranian official....not good. Unsure if there was any real data/reasoning (imminent threats). I tend to think there were not, other than the obvious fact that he was always working towards potential threats. But then again, so is Putin.

Regardless of how we go to this point, his words today were at least on point (for the most part) and will allow things to settle down a little. Just as the Iranian's throwing rockets hoping to not kill people. So while I'm under no illusion that Iran will actually stop trying to hurt america and especially American interests in the middle east and I am under no illusion that trump is all calm now and won't do something stupid...I feel better than I did before his speech. Not a lot better, but a little. and at least I don't feel worse.

Start a “Things Trump Does Well” thread.

Things Trump does well:

1-Irritate the piss out of Halifax

Sorry, I had to.

Start a thread, please?

Nah, it would just be bamboozled w whataboutisms and malarkey.

tempo_n_groove · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Is there really a teleprompter? His eyeballs were all over the place and when he does a prepared speech I had seen him not move a lick when he did.

Just curious.

tempo_n_groove said:

Is there really a teleprompter? His eyeballs were all over the place and when he does a prepared speech I had seen him not move a lick when he did.

Just curious.

yes....either teleprompters or large screens off to the sides

Ahhh, that makes sense. Thanks. I see how he does that side glance thing and here I thought he was being dramatic and posing.

Damn fooled me this time.

You can tell when he goes off the rails too though, that is always a train wreck.

mcgruff10 · January 2020

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

I've been told before that I take things a bit extreme. Oh well, makes it clear how I feel about it. Trump continues to rape this nation and the people of other countries with his actions, so I think it's apropos.

Well fair enough. As long as you're not one of these unhinged Trump-haters. I worry for them almost as much I worry for the unhinged Trump-lovers.

Not unhinged at all. My wife is good at reminding me my analogies are a little much. I'm a bit dark like that.

Do your analogies get better or worse after a few ipa s?

mrussel1 · January 2020

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it.

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing. I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest.

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me.

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here. Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive.

So what were the negatives?

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes.

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter. I"m glad Obama did. A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed. My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy. So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit. My God, why did the last week even happen? The whole episode is absolutely sickening. And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.

And there are very few people behind the scenes right now. The ones that were supposed to protect us have resigned.

Right, the pros. Evidently Pompeo was the big advocate for the strike. He's been passionately itching for a conflict with Iran from days well before State.

Gern Blansten · January 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

It is hilarious how tRump rattled his tiny saber and said we would wipe out Iran if they responded and then, once they respond, he says they backed down.

I'd rather he be a pussy than a warmonger.

Me too but what message does that send to the world? He's a weak pathetic leader.

Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

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