Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    dignin said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    what dreams said:
    Every single one of your responses was completely predictable. 100%. America bad. Everybody else in the world a victim of America. Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell. 
    Pretty common around here. 
    So I guess you agree that America should level a city of 9 million?

    If not then please stop encouraging stupid posts. Because nobody here said long live the rest of the world, America go to hell.
    Two things, first off, no I don't think America should level a city of 9 million so don't put those words in my mouth. Secondly,  I don't think he or she is suggesting that anyone has said "Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell" verbatim. I think he/she is just talking about the vibe around here. It seems like a lot of Trump's horrible descisions/motives are construed as the country's horrible descisions/movites. 
    Not for me.  The action is Trump's, not mine or my family.  This is on him 100% and I won't be behind him on this.  
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    All is well!

    I’m a little nervous about the presser at 11.


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  • brianlux
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    What kind of a weird war game is this anyway?  A U.S. drone kills Suleimani.  Iran strikes back by targeting a base in Iraq but warns them first and choose a target that is relatively secure.  For the most part, the only casualties are Irag civilians.  Iraq does not seem to be too concerned about that.  And supposedly the Iranian missile strike may appease all involved.  WTF?

    What the hell is going on here? 
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  • Hi!
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    edited January 2020
    I think the missiles are a big smoke screen, the airliner is the real story, no?

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  • dignin
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    dignin said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    what dreams said:
    Every single one of your responses was completely predictable. 100%. America bad. Everybody else in the world a victim of America. Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell. 
    Pretty common around here. 
    So I guess you agree that America should level a city of 9 million?

    If not then please stop encouraging stupid posts. Because nobody here said long live the rest of the world, America go to hell.
    Two things, first off, no I don't think America should level a city of 9 million so don't put those words in my mouth. Secondly,  I don't think he or she is suggesting that anyone has said "Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell" verbatim. I think he/she is just talking about the vibe around here. It seems like a lot of Trump's horrible descisions/motives are construed as the country's horrible descisions/movites. 
    Did you see the question mark at the end of that sentence? That's not putting words in anyone's mouth. If you don't agree with that, you should call it out, not pretend like it wasn't said.

    And said poster is the one that aligns with the extremist view of leveling a city, which isn't a far stretch to believe that Trump feels the same way. The poster wants extreme disproportionate escalation.

    So forgive anyone for possibly equating the two.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    Hi! said:
    I think the missiles are a big smoke screen, the airliner is the real story, no?

    Beats me, Hi.  I think the whole thing is just bat-shit crazy. 
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    mrussel1 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    dignin said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    what dreams said:
    Every single one of your responses was completely predictable. 100%. America bad. Everybody else in the world a victim of America. Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell. 
    Pretty common around here. 
    So I guess you agree that America should level a city of 9 million?

    If not then please stop encouraging stupid posts. Because nobody here said long live the rest of the world, America go to hell.
    Two things, first off, no I don't think America should level a city of 9 million so don't put those words in my mouth. Secondly,  I don't think he or she is suggesting that anyone has said "Long live the rest of the world. America go to hell" verbatim. I think he/she is just talking about the vibe around here. It seems like a lot of Trump's horrible descisions/motives are construed as the country's horrible descisions/movites. 
    Not for me.  The action is Trump's, not mine or my family.  This is on him 100% and I won't be behind him on this.  
    I agree. He’s insane, he’s going against his general’s recommendations, and he’s willing to kill civilians and start a war to distract from his administration’s corruption. He’s the worst. But I just don’t think it’s fair to say that his actions reflect the country. Or even the GOP as a whole...though they do reflect on the GOP leaders that sold their soul to Trump 
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  • Hi!
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    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    I think the missiles are a big smoke screen, the airliner is the real story, no?

    Beats me, Hi.  I think the whole thing is just bat-shit crazy. 
    +1

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  • mrussel1
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    Hi! said:
    I think the missiles are a big smoke screen, the airliner is the real story, no?
    I seriously doubt it.  The plane had no Americans and was plurality Iranian.  Also had a bunch of Canadians.  Both the Ukraine and Iranian gov'ts are saying mechanical failure.  Why would either US or Iran shoot that down, and then Ukraine comes out and says it was mechanical?  Occam's Razor day.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    Hi! said:
    All is well!

    I’m a little nervous about the presser at 11.


    quick, visit fox news site any shows twitter etc , you'll be sure to get a preview of trumps address.  do it before 11 too. just to see......
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  • brianlux
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    edited January 2020
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    edited January 2020
    brianlux said:
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


    firing 12 missles isnt insignificant. they called his bluff. he let it pass for this long..... no tweets other than All is well..... reminded of kevin bacon in animal house during the parade....
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Trump hammering the Sudafed this morning? I’m expecting a major sniffle fest at 11.

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  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


    firing 12 missles isnt insignificant. they called his bluff. he let it pass for this long..... no tweets other than All is well..... reminded of kevin bacon in animal house during the parade....

    If that's calling his bluff, he must be laughing his ass off.  It just doesn't add up.  The whole thing is nuts.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,159
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


    firing 12 missles isnt insignificant. they called his bluff. he let it pass for this long..... no tweets other than All is well..... reminded of kevin bacon in animal house during the parade....

    If that's calling his bluff, he must be laughing his ass off.  It just doesn't add up.  The whole thing is nuts.
    he was quite clear in 52 tweet.....
    they say now what motherfucker.....
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groove
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    brianlux said:
    What kind of a weird war game is this anyway?  A U.S. drone kills Suleimani.  Iran strikes back by targeting a base in Iraq but warns them first and choose a target that is relatively secure.  For the most part, the only casualties are Irag civilians.  Iraq does not seem to be too concerned about that.  And supposedly the Iranian missile strike may appease all involved.  WTF?

    What the hell is going on here? 
    I say something along these lines and I get accused of being a Trump lackey, you say it and crickets...

    Amazing.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,646
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


    firing 12 missles isnt insignificant. they called his bluff. he let it pass for this long..... no tweets other than All is well..... reminded of kevin bacon in animal house during the parade....

    If that's calling his bluff, he must be laughing his ass off.  It just doesn't add up.  The whole thing is nuts.
    Check out this thread on the topic:


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,795
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    I think the missiles are a big smoke screen, the airliner is the real story, no?
    I seriously doubt it.  The plane had no Americans and was plurality Iranian.  Also had a bunch of Canadians.  Both the Ukraine and Iranian gov'ts are saying mechanical failure.  Why would either US or Iran shoot that down, and then Ukraine comes out and says it was mechanical?  Occam's Razor day.  
    The airliner story will become moot and not this Occams Razor/Rube Goldberg thing you have going on here.  Unless they start pulling names from the plane that mean something then the black helicopters can start flying and that razor can be sharpened and Rube's machine for opening up that can of worms will be extravagant.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    What kind of a weird war game is this anyway?  A U.S. drone kills Suleimani.  Iran strikes back by targeting a base in Iraq but warns them first and choose a target that is relatively secure.  For the most part, the only casualties are Irag civilians.  Iraq does not seem to be too concerned about that.  And supposedly the Iranian missile strike may appease all involved.  WTF?

    What the hell is going on here? 
    I say something along these lines and I get accused of being a Trump lackey, you say it and crickets...

    Amazing.

    That's not crickets you hear, just my tinnitus.  Now worries.  :lol:
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  • brianlux
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    pjl44 said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Like this for example:

    "Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said that Iran “took and concluded proportionate measures” with the attacks and that “we do not seek escalation or war”. This may mean that Iran feels Suleimani’s death has been avenged and this matter is now closed."


    How is it that a country as angry as Iran feels appeased by an attack that basically did nothing but kill some Iraqi citizens and did little harm to the U.S.  Not that I wanted them to be more successful (I wish none of this had happened), but it's like, OK, you killed our #2 man so we are going to kick dust in your face and call it even.  WTF?  There's got to be more to it, right?  I don't get it. 


    firing 12 missles isnt insignificant. they called his bluff. he let it pass for this long..... no tweets other than All is well..... reminded of kevin bacon in animal house during the parade....

    If that's calling his bluff, he must be laughing his ass off.  It just doesn't add up.  The whole thing is nuts.
    Check out this thread on the topic:



    I'm not on Twitter so can read more than what you posted.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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