***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    pjl44 said:
    If you're sending it to a hostile Senate anyway, what's the advantage to rushing? He gets acquitted and you hope for a second go around?
    i agree.

    with everything he has done, i do not think it out of the realm of possibility that new impeachable offenses are committed. they can impeach him more than once with different articles.

    i am going to bet him sending rudy to ukraine is going to end up leading to some other impeachable crime that trump committed. i think rudy went there not to uncover dirt on biden, but to cover trump's tracks for other crimes he committed that have not yet come to light.
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  • Posts: 6,927
    "so that's evidence to you of what?"  Evidence that the people whom didn't like him went full on and hitched their wagon to impeachment.  Hell there was a member that posted a thread "should Trump be impeached?"  THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED!

    It can be implied that it was for his campaign, that's it.

    That is the direction the dems are leading the impeachment findings to be.

    It falls short in my eyes.



    Lol. Cry moar.

    If the president has something that is exculpatory - Mr. President, that means you have anything that shows your innocence - then he should make that known, and that's part of the inquiry," Pelosi said. 

    "So far we haven't seen that but we welcome it"

    Let's see the tax returns!  Let's have Trump testify, all of them. 

    Dozens of Trump associates have gone to jail already and dozens more will. 

    At the very least, Trump has been laundering money for the mob.
    His dad? Mob.
    Manafort? Mob.
    Manafort's dad? Mob.
    Parnas? Mob.
    Sater? Mob.
    Trump is being impeached and he's going to jail.



  • Posts: 10,553
    mrussel1 said:
    Pelosi had to be cognizant of having senators who are running for president being pinned down in the trial during Feb/Mar and beyond.  That's peak primary season.  The trial would run six days a week, leaving no time for Harris, Booker, Sanders, Klobuchar and Warren to campaign.  I think the speedy process was influenced by that factor.  
    With this announcement think that's gonna happen anyway.....


  • Posts: 9,839
    So are you saying who cares if he is actually guilty of what he is being accused of, the country is better off without him so impeach anyway?
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    myoung321 said:
    How many times have the words.. "If our Founding Framers where in this hall, what would they say?" been said since this started?

    I personally think they would say something like..... "How did you get torches in the ceiling to make this light? or
    "What's that Black Magic thing in your hand (phone)? or "Why are women and slaves in the chairs that belong to Congress MEN? " --- 


    When the time machine is built and we bring the Founding Fathers into the present, we will break them in slowly to the technological and cultural advances of today.  They were smart people.  They will catch on.  And then we will introduce them to Trump and I think they will say (using their new formed modern vernacular), "How in the FUCK did this guy get elected in the first place?  What the hell went wrong here???"
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • Posts: 10,553
    i agree.

    with everything he has done, i do not think it out of the realm of possibility that new impeachable offenses are committed. they can impeach him more than once with different articles.

    i am going to bet him sending rudy to ukraine is going to end up leading to some other impeachable crime that trump committed. i think rudy went there not to uncover dirt on biden, but to cover trump's tracks for other crimes he committed that have not yet come to light.
    You're probably right, but then it just starts to feel like a game if they're not taking the current process seriously enough. You risk losing the gravity of the situation with the public. The whole thing feels too loose to me, given what's at stake.
  • mrussel1 said:
    So you think through all of the witness testimonies, the texts, the Gordon Sundlands, it hasn't been proven that Trump demanded that the Uke gov't do this for the aid? WTF do you need as proof?  A signed affidavit by Trump?
    The optics are bad yes, but he did it for the upcoming elections?  No.

    I read everything that they said in the hearings.  I mentioned before that I was wondering about one conversation Sondland had but nothing ever came of it.  I thought that was the slam dunk and it wasn't.
  • Posts: 44,585
    You want logic then?  Look at who voted for impeachment, all democrats.  You see who voted no?  All republicans and 3 dems.

    Last I checked the democrats didn't like him.

    I'd love to ask what side of the aisle everyone is that is for the impeachment.  My guess would all be along party lines.



    registered independent since 1988 , my first eligible presidential election........

    impeach. this man is so unfit for this position. literally beneath the office he holds. there are a litany of impeachable offenses in my view since he was sworn in. none of which have to do with HOW he was elected.

    A major one would be Emoluments. Not only the foreign money pouring into his still owned by him properties but tax money from all these I wont have time to golf weekend golf trips.......

    I dont know the man personally, but his behavior as our national representative are reprehensible.

    IMPEACH AND CONVICT.
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  • The republicans have been successful at getting a segment of the population to believe a separate set of alternative facts. My head was hurting this morning responding to this stuff. 
    I didn't use the words "sham, witch hunt" or any other buzz words that the republicans like to use so they have had zero influence on my thinking.  It's what I read and made up for my own mind.

  • Posts: 49,598
    2019
    I didn't use the words "sham, witch hunt" or any other buzz words that the republicans like to use so they have had zero influence on my thinking.  It's what I read and made up for my own mind.

    You don't have to use their exact wording...

    Look man, you think it's okay for the president to have a foreign leader investigate his main political rival. That's cool. Completely un-american, but hey totally cool!
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  • Posts: 49,598
    2019
    mickeyrat said:
    registered independent since 1988 , my first eligible presidential election........

    impeach. this man is so unfit for this position. literally beneath the office he holds. there are a litany of impeachable offenses in my view since he was sworn in. none of which have to do with HOW he was elected.

    A major one would be Emoluments. Not only the foreign money pouring into his still owned by him properties but tax money from all these I wont have time to golf weekend golf trips.......

    I dont know the man personally, but his behavior as our national representative are reprehensible.

    IMPEACH AND CONVICT.
    I was a registered republican up until about a decade ago. Been independent ever since. This republican party is a shell of it's former self. 
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  • You don't have to use their exact wording...

    Look man, you think it's okay for the president to have a foreign leader investigate his main political rival. That's cool. Completely un-american, but hey totally cool!
    No, incorrect.  I don't think it was right, I just don't think it's impeachable.

    Reagan should have been impeached for the Iran Contra affair.  That I could understand.  This?  No.
  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    You want logic then?  Look at who voted for impeachment, all democrats.  You see who voted no?  All republicans and 3 dems.

    Last I checked the democrats didn't like him.

    I'd love to ask what side of the aisle everyone is that is for the impeachment.  My guess would all be along party lines.



    You’re once again making an assumption that this is extreme partisanship instead of logic. Your claim is also ridiculous when the Republicans voted in party lines exclusively as well - why does your bias assume that every single Republican is right and every single Democrat is corrupt, and what is it that leads you in this one case (fuck the BS about wanting it from the start - Pelosi owns this and was against for months and months) to assume this to be the case when the facts speak so incredibly loudly? Could it not, dare I say, be the opposite? You’ve not given a single valid argument against impeachment, nor have I seen one posted here. May I have one? Otherwise, all due respect, those who are arguing on the merit of the facts instead of the merit of the process, are deserving of the faith when the facts need not even be interpreted to be obviously troubling.
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  • To anyone who claims to not like Trump but is supporting Trump in this endeavor, would we as a nation not be better without that cocksucker in office?  Yes. Yes, we would.  So fuck him, fuck your technicalities, fuck your inability to see he's a piece of fucking shit.  Party lines or not, get rid of the mother fucker.  I hope he dies a slow fucking death and we all get to watch on tv while he suffers and pleads in agony.  I wouldn't waste my piss to put his burning ass out. Fuck him. He's as corrupt as they fucking come and has divided this country in ways not seen since the god damn 50s and 60s.  So there's youre party line.  Republicants in congress are nothing but a bunch of spineless fucking weaklings suckling at his gross teets. Fuck them all for voting no. They should all be impeached too for harboring a god damn terrorist.
    Perhaps sharing the XMas card I just got from President Trump to calm you down a bit.... Btw, it’s Pretty bad mojo wishing a slow death to anyone, Especially The President of the United States.....
    To anyone who claims to not like Trump but is supporting Trump in this endeavor, would we as a nation not be better without that cocksucker in office?  Yes. Yes, we would.  So fuck him, fuck your technicalities, fuck your inability to see he's a piece of fucking shit.  Party lines or not, get rid of the mother fucker.  I hope he dies a slow fucking death and we all get to watch on tv while he suffers and pleads in agony.  I wouldn't waste my piss to put his burning ass out. Fuck him. He's as corrupt as they fucking come and has divided this country in ways not seen since the god damn 50s and 60s.  So there's youre party line.  Republicants in congress are nothing but a bunch of spineless fucking weaklings suckling at his gross teets. Fuck them all for voting no. They should all be impeached too for harboring a god damn

  • Posts: 31,703
    2018
    lol yeah just like last night totally stomping Dingell in his grave yeah he’s a real jolly good Santa , I feel for you ..
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  • Posts: 44,585
    edited December 2019
    Its a shrewd move on holding off sending the articles to the Senate sans rules in place. It allows her to choose the right managers once it becomes known. Also kinda puts McConnell on the spot. It almost seems he thought HE could sit on them or at least have them in his control to pull some dick move.
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  • Posts: 49,598
    2019
    mickeyrat said:
    Its a shrewd move on holding off sending the articles to the Senate sans rules in place. It allows her to choose the right managers once it becomes known. Also kinda puts McConnell on the spot. It almost seems he thought HE could sit on them or at least have them in his control to pull some dick move.
    I've heard they are considering Justin Amash to be one of the managers. Really hoping that comes to bear. 
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  • Posts: 31,703
    2018

    Yep once in Moscow Mitch’s hands he would have more control over matters .
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Posts: 10,553
    I've heard they are considering Justin Amash to be one of the managers. Really hoping that comes to bear. 
    I can't endorse this enough

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