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The Juggler said:
I've heard they are considering Justin Amash to be one of the managers. Really hoping that comes to bear.mickeyrat said:Its a shrewd move on holding off sending the articles to the Senate sans rules in place. It allows her to choose the right managers once it becomes known. Also kinda puts McConnell on the spot. It almost seems he thought HE could sit on them or at least have them in his control to pull some dick move.I believe he would lead the team. Which is also shrewd as fuck. former gop now independent........Pelosi is masterful through this_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Earlier this morning you disagreed that he asked a foreign leader to interfere in our election by investigating Biden for him. You even said "not buying it for a second." Now you're acknowledging that he did it? And that it was wrong but not impeachable?tempo_n_groove said:
No, incorrect. I don't think it was right, I just don't think it's impeachable.The Juggler said:
You don't have to use their exact wording...tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't use the words "sham, witch hunt" or any other buzz words that the republicans like to use so they have had zero influence on my thinking. It's what I read and made up for my own mind.The Juggler said:
The republicans have been successful at getting a segment of the population to believe a separate set of alternative facts. My head was hurting this morning responding to this stuff.mrussel1 said:
1. Trump didn't care if he was investigated, he cared that it was announced on cable news that he was going to be investigated.tempo_n_groove said:
Trump wanted him investigated. Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election? If that happened then I missed that.The Juggler said:
You have lost your mind.tempo_n_groove said:
You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?The Juggler said:
It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call."tempo_n_groove said:
I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics. The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.josevolution said:
So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..Jason P said:
What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate.mrussel1 said:
So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?Jason P said:Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years. Whew.
I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault. That is what IS wrong w politics.
You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?
Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone.
What the fuck.
I have a problem with this because that is not what happened. Sorry, not buyng this for a second. You can imply that but that is not what happened.
2. We have laws on the books that provide a method for the DOJ to investigate the actions of US nationals in overseas dealings. This is the proper and lawful method to handle such situation.
3. The administration was withholding congressionally appropriated aid until the announcement took place. This aid was critical for the Ukrainian gov't to defend itself in an actual hot war.
I feel like you really didn't pay attention to this whole deal.
Look man, you think it's okay for the president to have a foreign leader investigate his main political rival. That's cool. Completely un-american, but hey totally cool!
Reagan should have been impeached for the Iran Contra affair. That I could understand. This? No.
If the afternoon version of your story is what you're sticking with, I can appreciate that and we can have that debate (you're still wrong but at least we are agreeing with facts in this universe). Sadly it's in stark contrast to 100% of the house republicans who agree with what you said 9 hours ago.
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Stroke of genius. Has to happen!mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
I've heard they are considering Justin Amash to be one of the managers. Really hoping that comes to bear.mickeyrat said:Its a shrewd move on holding off sending the articles to the Senate sans rules in place. It allows her to choose the right managers once it becomes known. Also kinda puts McConnell on the spot. It almost seems he thought HE could sit on them or at least have them in his control to pull some dick move.I believe he would lead the team. Which is also shrewd as fuck. former gop now independent........Pelosi is masterful through thiswww.myspace.com0 -
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It's literally the flow of justification that we've seen from Republicans. Although he did it in 12 hours rather than a few weeks.The Juggler said:
Earlier this morning you disagreed that he asked a foreign leader to interfere in our election by investigating Biden for him. You even said "not buying it for a second." Now you're acknowledging that he did it? And that it was wrong but not impeachable?tempo_n_groove said:
No, incorrect. I don't think it was right, I just don't think it's impeachable.The Juggler said:
You don't have to use their exact wording...tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't use the words "sham, witch hunt" or any other buzz words that the republicans like to use so they have had zero influence on my thinking. It's what I read and made up for my own mind.The Juggler said:
The republicans have been successful at getting a segment of the population to believe a separate set of alternative facts. My head was hurting this morning responding to this stuff.mrussel1 said:
1. Trump didn't care if he was investigated, he cared that it was announced on cable news that he was going to be investigated.tempo_n_groove said:
Trump wanted him investigated. Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election? If that happened then I missed that.The Juggler said:
You have lost your mind.tempo_n_groove said:
You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?The Juggler said:
It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call."tempo_n_groove said:
I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics. The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.josevolution said:
So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..Jason P said:
What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate.mrussel1 said:
So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?Jason P said:Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years. Whew.
I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault. That is what IS wrong w politics.
You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?
Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone.
What the fuck.
I have a problem with this because that is not what happened. Sorry, not buyng this for a second. You can imply that but that is not what happened.
2. We have laws on the books that provide a method for the DOJ to investigate the actions of US nationals in overseas dealings. This is the proper and lawful method to handle such situation.
3. The administration was withholding congressionally appropriated aid until the announcement took place. This aid was critical for the Ukrainian gov't to defend itself in an actual hot war.
I feel like you really didn't pay attention to this whole deal.
Look man, you think it's okay for the president to have a foreign leader investigate his main political rival. That's cool. Completely un-american, but hey totally cool!
Reagan should have been impeached for the Iran Contra affair. That I could understand. This? No.
If the afternoon version of your story is what you're sticking with, I can appreciate that and we can have that debate (you're still wrong but at least we are agreeing with facts in this universe). Sadly it's in stark contrast to 100% of the house republicans who agree with what you said 9 hours ago.0 -
Sadly, Harris is no longer in the race.pjl44 said:
With this announcement think that's gonna happen anyway.....mrussel1 said:
Pelosi had to be cognizant of having senators who are running for president being pinned down in the trial during Feb/Mar and beyond. That's peak primary season. The trial would run six days a week, leaving no time for Harris, Booker, Sanders, Klobuchar and Warren to campaign. I think the speedy process was influenced by that factor.pjl44 said:
If you're sending it to a hostile Senate anyway, what's the advantage to rushing? He gets acquitted and you hope for a second go around?mrussel1 said:
The case is in front of the SCOTUS now, as far as the extent of executive privilege. the Democrats did not want to wait for that to be resolved, which I think was the right call. If the House wins the case, they can always file the subpoenas at that point. I think it was the right call because the SCOTUS could kick it to the next term.pjl44 said:
Use the courts. Who knows if it would have been successful, but they didn't even try. These are people with first hand knowledge. They chose to leave that for the Senate trial and I think you and I would both be skeptical about how that's gonna go.tbergs said:
How were they supposed to do a better job of getting people to testify when the president openly told them not to?pjl44 said:And, yeah, the House does what they have to do regardless of what the Senate might do. They could have done a much better job in getting some testimony out in the open, but at least you're putting people on the record. I can't help but think if they had done a better job in the hearings, it puts Senate Republicans in a tighter spot to hold the line.
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Sadly, Harris is no longer in the race.pjl44 said:
With this announcement think that's gonna happen anyway.....mrussel1 said:
Pelosi had to be cognizant of having senators who are running for president being pinned down in the trial during Feb/Mar and beyond. That's peak primary season. The trial would run six days a week, leaving no time for Harris, Booker, Sanders, Klobuchar and Warren to campaign. I think the speedy process was influenced by that factor.pjl44 said:
If you're sending it to a hostile Senate anyway, what's the advantage to rushing? He gets acquitted and you hope for a second go around?mrussel1 said:
The case is in front of the SCOTUS now, as far as the extent of executive privilege. the Democrats did not want to wait for that to be resolved, which I think was the right call. If the House wins the case, they can always file the subpoenas at that point. I think it was the right call because the SCOTUS could kick it to the next term.pjl44 said:
Use the courts. Who knows if it would have been successful, but they didn't even try. These are people with first hand knowledge. They chose to leave that for the Senate trial and I think you and I would both be skeptical about how that's gonna go.tbergs said:
How were they supposed to do a better job of getting people to testify when the president openly told them not to?pjl44 said:And, yeah, the House does what they have to do regardless of what the Senate might do. They could have done a much better job in getting some testimony out in the open, but at least you're putting people on the record. I can't help but think if they had done a better job in the hearings, it puts Senate Republicans in a tighter spot to hold the line.
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And frankly, that's really what he's being impeached for. It's not about Ukraine or obstructing congress. He's an absolute madman who everyone (even himself) knows isn't fit to lead a country (or anything). The Republicans know it too but they've sold their soul to move forward conservatism. Vilify them all ya want, the Democrats would do the same thing. The only difference is the Republicans not only would have impeached Trump for his antics, they'd have done it more efficiently.mickeyrat said:people are saying theres a tweet for everything.....
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And frankly, that's really what he's being impeached for. It's not about Ukraine or obstructing congress. He's an absolute madman who everyone (even himself) knows isn't fit to lead a country (or anything). The Republicans know it too but they've sold their soul to move forward conservatism. Vilify them all ya want, the Democrats would do the same thing. The only difference is the Republicans not only would have impeached Trump for his antics, they'd have done it more efficiently.mickeyrat said:people are saying theres a tweet for everything.....
Impeachment for gross incompetence and being a turd works for me!
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Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??0
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You think antifa are party members? Give me a break.lindamarie73 said:Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??0 -
wtf are you taking about?lindamarie73 said:Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??
Republicans are more the mass shooting, rape and steal type of people.0 -
And hoping for school shootings to take the news cycle off of impeachment.CM189191 said:
wtf are you taking about?lindamarie73 said:Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??
Republicans are more the mass shooting, rape and steal type of people.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Can we agree that rapists, mass shooters and looters don’t represent the majority of any group? When a reporter said they were glad the Vegas shooting happened because it was at a country concert and most country goers are republican and deserved it I don’t remember anyone claiming that was the official stance of the Democratic Party.0
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Democrats just hate Team Trump Treason and the voters that voted for him. No need to tack on mass shootings.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No, it’s when scared Republicans who must know deep down they’re wrong, idiots who don’t know better, and trolls, come back to make this place worse by avoiding logic like the plague they see it to be. I’m not sure which you are.lindamarie73 said:Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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lindamarie73 said:Is this when Republicans loot, destroy, and set things on fire, or is that just a Democratic thing??
No, I'm thinking this is when the trolls come out to play.
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