Obama: Women "indisputably" better at leading

HughFreakingDillon
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/politics/barack-obama-women-are-better-than-men/index.html
I can't say I disagree with him. Although, is there really enough of a pool to draw from to come to such a conclusion? not to mention;
Imagine Kellyanne as POTUS, for instance. Not all women are progressive.
I found another comment quite interesting, and could be why he hasn't yet endorsed Biden in the Dem primary.
"If you look at the world and look at the problems, it's usually old people, usually old men, not getting out of the way," he said. "It is important for political leaders to try and remind themselves that you are there to do a job, but you are not there for life, you are not there in order to prop up your own sense of self importance or your own power."
I can't say I disagree with him. Although, is there really enough of a pool to draw from to come to such a conclusion? not to mention;
Imagine Kellyanne as POTUS, for instance. Not all women are progressive.
I found another comment quite interesting, and could be why he hasn't yet endorsed Biden in the Dem primary.
"If you look at the world and look at the problems, it's usually old people, usually old men, not getting out of the way," he said. "It is important for political leaders to try and remind themselves that you are there to do a job, but you are not there for life, you are not there in order to prop up your own sense of self importance or your own power."
Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer
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Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
And you're right, it is asinine to make a blanket statement like that. I thought Hillary could have been a good leader, but the fact that she's a woman had nothing to do with me thinking that. And I think Trump is a horrible leader, but the fact that he's an old man has nothing to do with me thinking that.
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cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Obama is so well spoken and generally has good things to say. Making up shit is not his forte.HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:Obama is so well spoken and generally has good things to say. Making up shit is not his forte.HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
"Indisputably" is a little pompous also. Since there's no proof that one gender is better at leading than the other, it's disputable.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I've actually seen a lot of studies done on this very topic, and women are almost always the clear winner. However, I'm no expert on how these studies are carried out and what biases they may include.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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that's just two articles. I scrolled through two pages of google searches and found only one that came to the conclusion that men were more effective at leading than women; and it was a blog.
my google search was "who is better at leading? men or women?"Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:that's just two articles. I scrolled through two pages of google searches and found only one that came to the conclusion that men were more effective at leading than women; and it was a blog.
my google search was "who is better at leading? men or women?"
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Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:that's just two articles. I scrolled through two pages of google searches and found only one that came to the conclusion that men were more effective at leading than women; and it was a blog.
my google search was "who is better at leading? men or women?"Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
Again, not your intent, just my take-away.
Anyway, I agree with the concensus - ascribing qualities or a higher level of leadership based on one's sex? No thanks!0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
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hedonist said:HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
Again, not your intent, just my take-away.
Anyway, I agree with the concensus - ascribing qualities or a higher level of leadership based on one's sex? No thanks!Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
hedonist said:HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
Again, not your intent, just my take-away.
Anyway, I agree with the concensus - ascribing qualities or a higher level of leadership based on one's sex? No thanks!Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
I'm supposed to believe he'd endorse Nikki Haley over someone like Pete Buttigieg?0
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HughFreakingDillon said:hedonist said:HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
Again, not your intent, just my take-away.
Anyway, I agree with the concensus - ascribing qualities or a higher level of leadership based on one's sex? No thanks!)
i just don’t subscribe to the gender of someone making them an inherently better leader.0 -
hedonist said:HughFreakingDillon said:hedonist said:HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:Pandering...great.
It's an asinine comment. Just as it would be if it was said about Men being better, or anything. Really dumb.
are there bad female leaders? of course. my former female boss was a fucking asshole. our former female HR director was the devil incarnate.
as i said, i don't know what he's drawing this conclusion from, but I would say it's high time we give women a kick at the can. males have fucked everything up royally for centuries.
Again, not your intent, just my take-away.
Anyway, I agree with the concensus - ascribing qualities or a higher level of leadership based on one's sex? No thanks!)
i just don’t subscribe to the gender of someone making them an inherently better leader.hippiemom = goodness0 -
i guess all the studies and surveys be damned, then.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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