***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Here's a thought, should the Republicans really be against impeachment? If you were a Republican lawmaker, wouldn't the idea of Mike Pence replacing Trump be sort of enticing? Pence is just another Republican. Like Romney or Bush or whoever. Seems like he'd be way easier to work with if you're a Republican. The GOP as a slim lead on the Dems as far as governorships and Senators go. Do they think Trump is the key to maintaining/extending those leads? Because if he's not, what's the fucking the point of him? 
    Pence would never win re-election Baffoon has a way better chance at re-election ..
    Well at this rate, a Senate impeachment trial probably wouldn't occur until after the 2020 election anyway. So if "Buffoon" was reelected, you'd think that's when the Republicans would be willing to part with him. Not publicly because Trump has them all nurtured. But in their own heads. 

    It's all hypothetical anyway because they'll never get a 2/3 vote in the Senate. I support impeachment for the political theater and the shit show it'll be. This forum will be hilarious during it. But he won't be removed and like many have said, it may even help his reelection effort. 
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  • josevolution
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    Here's a thought, should the Republicans really be against impeachment? If you were a Republican lawmaker, wouldn't the idea of Mike Pence replacing Trump be sort of enticing? Pence is just another Republican. Like Romney or Bush or whoever. Seems like he'd be way easier to work with if you're a Republican. The GOP as a slim lead on the Dems as far as governorships and Senators go. Do they think Trump is the key to maintaining/extending those leads? Because if he's not, what's the fucking the point of him? 
    Pence would never win re-election Baffoon has a way better chance at re-election ..
    Well at this rate, a Senate impeachment trial probably wouldn't occur until after the 2020 election anyway. So if "Buffoon" was reelected, you'd think that's when the Republicans would be willing to part with him. Not publicly because Trump has them all nurtured. But in their own heads. 

    It's all hypothetical anyway because they'll never get a 2/3 vote in the Senate. I support impeachment for the political theater and the shit show it'll be. This forum will be hilarious during it. But he won't be removed and like many have said, it may even help his reelection effort. 
    Yep the days of the Noble law abiding politicians are dead , this country has a fascination with the bad guys I see it all the time not only in politics but everyday people...
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  • Gotta love the implosion.

    BOLTON TO DEFY WHITE HOUSE, TESTIFY
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  • dignin
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    Gotta love the implosion.

    BOLTON TO DEFY WHITE HOUSE, TESTIFY
    That would take too long.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    2018
    Here's a thought, should the Republicans really be against impeachment? If you were a Republican lawmaker, wouldn't the idea of Mike Pence replacing Trump be sort of enticing? Pence is just another Republican. Like Romney or Bush or whoever. Seems like he'd be way easier to work with if you're a Republican. The GOP as a slim lead on the Dems as far as governorships and Senators go. Do they think Trump is the key to maintaining/extending those leads? Because if he's not, what's the fucking the point of him? 
    you lose trumps base, but you might get back traditional republicans. depends on the numbers. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    Gotta love the implosion.

    BOLTON TO DEFY WHITE HOUSE, TESTIFY
    3 frogs on a log, one is willing to jump off. how many frogs on the log......

    means dick. click bait headline.....
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  • mickeyrat said:
    Gotta love the implosion.

    BOLTON TO DEFY WHITE HOUSE, TESTIFY
    3 frogs on a log, one is willing to jump off. how many frogs on the log......

    means dick. click bait headline.....
    I think it’s quite meaningful. You have to ask, what are they hiding? If John Boy Bolton doesn’t testify, it adds to the obstruction allegation and if he does, and explains what he meant by “drug deal,” it could ratchet up the pressure on the repub senators.

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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    Gotta love the implosion.

    BOLTON TO DEFY WHITE HOUSE, TESTIFY
    3 frogs on a log, one is willing to jump off. how many frogs on the log......

    means dick. click bait headline.....
    I think it’s quite meaningful. You have to ask, what are they hiding? If John Boy Bolton doesn’t testify, it adds to the obstruction allegation and if he does, and explains what he meant by “drug deal,” it could ratchet up the pressure on the repub senators.

    Do you have a cute rhyme with turtles?
    my take from the article is he wont testify unless forced to by the court.

    funny how this comes out right after reprts of the house rescinding his deputy's subpoena which was already in the courts.......
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  • mickeyrat
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mickeyrat said:
    it's all such a mockery. like children fighting in school with no teachers in sight. 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • josevolution
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    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
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  • mickeyrat
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    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
    Contempt of Congress can be jail-able if they want to push it that far.  where it it is actually warranted (not just purely politically motivated but above board), I believe they should.

    I think they should , otherwise whats the point of holding someone in contempt?
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  • josevolution
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    mickeyrat said:
    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
    Contempt of Congress can be jail-able if they want to push it that far.  where it it is actually warranted (not just purely politically motivated but above board), I believe they should.

    I think they should , otherwise whats the point of holding someone in contempt?
    Exactly my thoughts ..
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  • Go Beavers
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    mickeyrat said:
    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
    Contempt of Congress can be jail-able if they want to push it that far.  where it it is actually warranted (not just purely politically motivated but above board), I believe they should.

    I think they should , otherwise whats the point of holding someone in contempt?
    Isn’t daily fines also an option? It would be less dramatic response that doesn’t feed the victim mentality of republicans but shows a response by dems. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
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    mickeyrat said:
    c/p of the ad they took out in the failing NYTs....

    What may have been public television’s shining hour – some 247 hours, in fact – came in 1973 when PBS carried gavel-to-gavel coverage of hearings convened by the Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities.

    Also known as the Watergate committee.

    Over the course of 51 days and nights, millions of viewers watched as the story of the Watergate break-in, the cover-up, payoffs, and dirty tricks unfolded before their eyes. The evidence was undeniable: Richard Nixon, the President of the United States, had abused the power of his office, corrupted the rule of law, lied persistently, and obstructed justice.

    Other networks carried the hearings, too, but what set public broadcasting apart was the decision to air them twice a day: live, in real time as they happened, and then via videotape in prime time every evening, when people who had spent all day working could come home, watch the drama play out without intrusive commentary, and become a part of the process of judgement. One viewer wrote: “I arrive red-eyed and sleepy to work and I don’t care.”

    The hearings showed Americans that democracy can work because they saw it at work. The coverage catapulted a fledgling PBS into the national consciousness.

    We know because we were there. Both of us started working in public television nearly fifty years ago and were on the scene as PBS made its mark.

    It almost didn’t happen. PBS was already under attack from Nixon and his henchmen. The president’s efforts to quell “Eastern liberal” dissent he claimed was biased against him included eliminating public broadcasting altogether. (Nixon’s special assistant Patrick Buchanan had said, “We’ve got to zero it out, and that’s that.”)

    A nervous PBS polled member stations on the decision to carry the hearings. Barely half of them gave the go-ahead.

    Initially, there was only enough money for 15 nights of programs, but when the broadcasts proved so popular, cash donations flowed in, as did thanks from across the country. PBS had a hit.

    This ironic symmetry was lost on no one: Public television had assured its place in the nation’s esteem by covering fairly the man who had tried to strangle it in the cradle. And the rookie network that had been accused of avoiding controversy for fear of government and partisan retribution showed the independence and courage to help Americans come to grips with a clear and present danger.

    Now, during yet another great Constitutional crisis, it’s time for PBS to stand up again – to air the Trump impeachment hearings live during the day and repeat them in the evening primetime hours

    .Yes, the regular PBS evening schedule will have to be preempted, as it was back in 1973. But disrupting its programming for a few weeks is a small price to pay for helping preserve the republic. As President Lyndon Johnson noted when he signed into law the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967, public broadcasting might yet become “a replica of the old Greek marketplace, where public affairs took place in view of all the citizens.” Dirty linen included.

    C-SPAN, cable and satellite channels and the Internet now offer some version of the service once unique to public TV, but according to the PBS.org website, the difference is clear: Over the course of a year 83% of all television households — over 215 million people — watch PBS via traditional television. PBS reaches 83% of non-internet homes, 82% of lower-income homes and 78% of rural homes.

    So airing the impeachment hearings as streaming video on a website isn’t enough. Plenty of Americans still rely on good old broadcast TV to get the word. Hearken, PBS: Pull out the stops once again, and for the sake of the nation, throw away the schedule and air the Trump impeachment hearings in prime time.

    Who wins? Democracy – and viewers like you.


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  • Who does Team Trump Treason think he is? Little Rocket Man? Putin on the ritz? What a dick.

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  • The Juggler
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    mickeyrat said:
    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
    Contempt of Congress can be jail-able if they want to push it that far.  where it it is actually warranted (not just purely politically motivated but above board), I believe they should.

    I think they should , otherwise whats the point of holding someone in contempt?
    Isn’t daily fines also an option? It would be less dramatic response that doesn’t feed the victim mentality of republicans but shows a response by dems. 
    They're not going to fight them, apparently. I think they're just adding to the obstruction article of impeachment. Going to court will drag on for months.

    The Bolton testimony is something I think they really need, though. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    So what happens with all the complicit idiots that refuse to testify in these hearings, what can congress do ?
    Contempt of Congress can be jail-able if they want to push it that far.  where it it is actually warranted (not just purely politically motivated but above board), I believe they should.

    I think they should , otherwise whats the point of holding someone in contempt?
    Isn’t daily fines also an option? It would be less dramatic response that doesn’t feed the victim mentality of republicans but shows a response by dems. 
    They're not going to fight them, apparently. I think they're just adding to the obstruction article of impeachment. Going to court will drag on for months.

    The Bolton testimony is something I think they really need, though. 

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