Ticketmaster facial recognition tickets

pjl44 said:

PB11041 said:

A better answer to this fiasco is complete decentralization of a single dominant player in the business.  

I get charged the same fees or worse by Ticketfly and AXS

I am not talking about the fees, the fees while egregious are the least of the issue that this point.

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

PB11041 said:

A better answer to this fiasco is complete decentralization of a single dominant player in the business.  

I think that would help a little, but not a lot.   It could help break up the reselling business where I think TM overstepped, and also could help the monopoly on venues.    It could help drive down service fees.  On the other hand it's not going to help scalping, premium tickets, vip tickets, or bots.    Most of things are things promoters utilize to increase revenue.  Bots would probably work better, because if there's no one entity selling the tickets, how much can they really afford to build their platform.   

The more entities a promoter has to deal with, the more challenging it is to manage the process for setting up a reselling distribution chain.  Currently it takes minimal to no effort because virtually every ticket to every major venue goes through a single point of contact, TM/Live Nation.  

They should have a verified fan presale where any fan can join if verified. But tickets are not sold until the end of the presale.

Fans type in the dollar amount they are willing to pay (subject to a minimum amount) and select from a number of location tiers they are willing to sit. This would work like a blind auction. With current tech this should be easy to accomplish.

Ticket  distribution is fair, and an accurate market value is established before the general on sale. This way promoters would not need to block off tickets for brokers/scalpers. 

Lerxst1992 said:

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

PB11041 said:

A better answer to this fiasco is complete decentralization of a single dominant player in the business.  

I think that would help a little, but not a lot.   It could help break up the reselling business where I think TM overstepped, and also could help the monopoly on venues.    It could help drive down service fees.  On the other hand it's not going to help scalping, premium tickets, vip tickets, or bots.    Most of things are things promoters utilize to increase revenue.  Bots would probably work better, because if there's no one entity selling the tickets, how much can they really afford to build their platform.   

The more entities a promoter has to deal with, the more challenging it is to manage the process for setting up a reselling distribution chain.  Currently it takes minimal to no effort because virtually every ticket to every major venue goes through a single point of contact, TM/Live Nation.  

They should have a verified fan presale where any fan can join if verified. But tickets are not sold until the end of the presale.

Fans type in the dollar amount they are willing to pay (subject to a minimum amount) and select from a number of location tiers they are willing to sit. This would work like a blind auction. With current tech this should be easy to accomplish.

Ticket  distribution is fair, and an accurate market value is established before the general on sale. This way promoters would not need to block off tickets for brokers/scalpers. 

don't think there will be fair ever, there will always be something nefarious going on, but having a single entity controlling it is certainly not ideal.

pjl44 said:

PB11041 said:

pjl44 said:

PB11041 said:

pjl44 said:

PB11041 said:

A better answer to this fiasco is complete decentralization of a single dominant player in the business.  

I get charged the same fees or worse by Ticketfly and AXS

I am not talking about the fees, the fees while egregious are the least of the issue that his point.

Meh

the "convenience" fees really do not mean shit if the tickets are being throttled by promoters.   

There's a thread in the Other Music forum where we've really been hacking this out. Jump in if you're interested. 

One thing I'll say is that 95% of shows I go to now are theaters on down. This is far less of a problem if you're not going to big shows.

absolutely