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I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.0 -
2018I like the lawyers asking questions.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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most of congress in both chambers are lawyers...ikiT said:I like the lawyers asking questions.
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thats because they are very bad at acting, which is what being on television is. acting....dignin said:
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2018disconnected lawyers like the one who ripped into Corey Lewandowski. That should be the way this bullshit is handled.
This isn't about how Devin Nunes is feeling... it's about facts.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
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Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.www.myspace.com0 -
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
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I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
Timing is everything.
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It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
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The Juggler said:
It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
Timing is everything.
Polling is trending in the right direction and for the right reasons. As more damning information comes out, a critical mass will be reached. It’s just a matter of time and it’s supposed to be difficult. Impeachment is not a trivial matter and nor should it be.The Juggler said:
It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
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It's actually down almost 1% since October 14th...hence my apprehension.Halifax2TheMax said:The Juggler said:
It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
Timing is everything.
Polling is trending in the right direction and for the right reasons. As more damning information comes out, a critical mass will be reached. It’s just a matter of time and it’s supposed to be difficult. Impeachment is not a trivial matter and nor should it be.The Juggler said:
It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!Halifax2TheMax said:
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”The Juggler said:
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....Halifax2TheMax said:
Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.The Juggler said:
Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt.dignin said:
I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
They should already be doing those ads.Halifax2TheMax said:I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority.They should also be holding these hearings in public.2 things.1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.
Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically.
Timing is everything.
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And it's not just "public" sentiment but "Republican" sentiment. And he's still at 87% with members of the Party of Trump. I'm not sure what that has to drop to before careerist Party of Trump senators feel good about doing the right thing, but it's lower than that.The Juggler said:
It's a given that he will be impeached at this point, probably this year. Public sentiment is the main thing driving senate republicans, though, so keeping an eye on the polls is important. This is not going to be easy for the dems...brianlux said:
I understand Juggler's concern and appreciate your stalwart faith it will all work out. I have to say, I learn toward the concern myself but hope for the much desired (by most of us) outcome!
Drip, drip, drip. It’s not going to lose steam as the dems will strategically leak if needed. Better a slow, deliberate process. The dems should be pounding the theme of, “if a witch hunt, why all the non-cooperation, lying and cover up?”
Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....
Timing is everything.
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