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2018Seems like OBSTRUCTION is the strategy.
Can we wrap this up already?
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Only if the House decides to actually enforce subpoenas...with the backing of no Federal Trump agency. Checks and balances might already be a thing of the past.The Juggler said:
Subpoena. Fail to comply---BOOM. Obstruction of Justice. Article of Impeachment.josevolution said:What happens when these idiots refuse to comply to testify?
White House is backed into a corner.
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GOP senator: Trump wrong to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden but it's not 'an impeachable offense'
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rob-portman-trump-wrong-ask-203723913.html
COLUMBUS – Ohio Sen. Rob Portman said Monday it's wrong for President Donald Trump to ask Ukraine or China or another foreign entity to investigate Democratic rival and former vice president Joe Biden.
But Portman, a Republican from Terrace Park near Cincinnati, said he doesn't see it as "an impeachable offense" and said Democrats are rushing to impeachment.
"It's not appropriate for a president to engage a foreign government with an investigation with a political opponent," Portman told reporters Monday outside the annual Ohio Defense Forum.
House Democrats have called for an impeachment inquiry against Trump following a July phone call in which Trump urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden's involvement in the firing of Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin. Shokin had investigated Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma between 2010 and 2012. Biden's son Hunter became a board member of the company in 2014.
The call prompted a whistleblower complaint alleging Trump asked a foreign government to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Democrats had already launched an investigation into whether Trump's decision to withhold $250 million in military assistance was tied to efforts for a Ukrainian investigation of Biden's actions.
Trump has claimed that Biden, as vice president, forced out Shokin to protect his son.
But Portman, a co-chair of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, said Monday that Shokin's office wasn't doing enough to fight corruption. Portman and other senators sent a letter in February 2016 to then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, urging him to tackle corruption.
"The prosecutor's office was not ferreting out corruption and part of it was they needed to reform their office and how they operated," Portman said.
Portman told reporters Monday that he found out Trump was seeking an investigation into the Bidens from published media reports.
Portman said he talked to Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and officials at the U.S. Department of State but didn't receive an answer for why military aid was on hold until a Sept. 11 phone call with Trump. On the call, Trump stressed a lack of burden-sharing by European allies was a reason to withhold funds.
Two days before, House Democrats announced an investigation into Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's efforts in Ukraine to push an investigation into Biden and the delay in distributing aid to the country.
On Sept. 12, the Trump administration lifted the hold. Trump said last week he released the aid "because Rob Portman and others called me and asked."
Portman reiterated his position against impeachment. He said a clear quid pro quo, as promised by House Democrats, wasn't borne out by the summary of the Trump-Zelensky phone call and whistleblower complaint.
"They moved a little too quickly and I think impeachment has to be taken really seriously because it overturns the results of a democratically-held election," said Portman, who voted to impeach then-President Clinton.
Portman said the incident should be investigated by the Senate Intelligence Committee and others. Meanwhile, he said, an impeachment inquiry will make it harder to pass legislation such as the six bipartisan bills he's been working on.
"It’s sad to me as hard as it is to get things done in Washington, now it’s going to be even harder," Portman said. "And as divided as our country already is, we are going to be even more polarized."
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2018I would say that if it was ONLY the 1 call and statement, it might not be impeachable. But that is hardly the reality.hippiemom = goodness0
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GOP senator: Trump wrong to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden but it's not 'an impeachable offense'
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rob-portman-trump-wrong-ask-203723913.html
COLUMBUS – Ohio Sen. Rob Portman said Monday it's wrong for President Donald Trump to ask Ukraine or China or another foreign entity to investigate Democratic rival and former vice president Joe Biden.
But Portman, a Republican from Terrace Park near Cincinnati, said he doesn't see it as "an impeachable offense" and said Democrats are rushing to impeachment.
"It's not appropriate for a president to engage a foreign government with an investigation with a political opponent," Portman told reporters Monday outside the annual Ohio Defense Forum.
House Democrats have called for an impeachment inquiry against Trump following a July phone call in which Trump urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden's involvement in the firing of Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin. Shokin had investigated Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma between 2010 and 2012. Biden's son Hunter became a board member of the company in 2014.
The call prompted a whistleblower complaint alleging Trump asked a foreign government to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Democrats had already launched an investigation into whether Trump's decision to withhold $250 million in military assistance was tied to efforts for a Ukrainian investigation of Biden's actions.
Trump has claimed that Biden, as vice president, forced out Shokin to protect his son.
But Portman, a co-chair of the bipartisan Senate Ukraine Caucus, said Monday that Shokin's office wasn't doing enough to fight corruption. Portman and other senators sent a letter in February 2016 to then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, urging him to tackle corruption.
"The prosecutor's office was not ferreting out corruption and part of it was they needed to reform their office and how they operated," Portman said.
Portman told reporters Monday that he found out Trump was seeking an investigation into the Bidens from published media reports.
Portman said he talked to Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and officials at the U.S. Department of State but didn't receive an answer for why military aid was on hold until a Sept. 11 phone call with Trump. On the call, Trump stressed a lack of burden-sharing by European allies was a reason to withhold funds.
Two days before, House Democrats announced an investigation into Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's efforts in Ukraine to push an investigation into Biden and the delay in distributing aid to the country.
On Sept. 12, the Trump administration lifted the hold. Trump said last week he released the aid "because Rob Portman and others called me and asked."
Portman reiterated his position against impeachment. He said a clear quid pro quo, as promised by House Democrats, wasn't borne out by the summary of the Trump-Zelensky phone call and whistleblower complaint.
"They moved a little too quickly and I think impeachment has to be taken really seriously because it overturns the results of a democratically-held election," said Portman, who voted to impeach then-President Clinton.
Portman said the incident should be investigated by the Senate Intelligence Committee and others. Meanwhile, he said, an impeachment inquiry will make it harder to pass legislation such as the six bipartisan bills he's been working on.
"It’s sad to me as hard as it is to get things done in Washington, now it’s going to be even harder," Portman said. "And as divided as our country already is, we are going to be even more polarized."
no sir. impeachment doesnt overturn an election. impeachment is the process that removes a president from that office when their actions and behavior show them to be unfit.but wouldnt expect any different from a religious gop assbag who would have denied his own son from entering into legal marriage._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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2018It really should be all the obstruction of Congress.
Like from the jump. I'm sure they kept track...
AND the Fucking Mueller Report. Enough already.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
2018Overturn the election? He's literally incompetent, and he has no supervision.
It's like saying you got hired you to cook burgers and all you do is yell at the customers. I heard you said that's what you like to do in the interview, yell at customers, but this shit aint workin' out bro. Just because I wasn't involved in choosing you for the position, doesn't mean I cant run you the eff out because you still suck at being the Prez. You're not entitled to keep a JOB. There's the door.
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2018these idiots saying the dems are trying to overturn the election forget that if trump is removed we get pence, not hillary.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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2018they're gonna take Pence too.
President Pelosi.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
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only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
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I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
President Pelosi.hippiemom = goodness0 -
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it's just more "we need to bring down the entire trump admin" and it will literally never happen. ivanka won't be indicted, jared won't be indicted, nor will eric or don jr, or kellyanne or sarah sanders, kavanaugh won't be impeached, etc. it's all just hopes and dreams.cincybearcat said:
I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
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Again, these things probably will not happen, but the odds are probably higher than you think.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just more "we need to bring down the entire trump admin" and it will literally never happen. ivanka won't be indicted, jared won't be indicted, nor will eric or don jr, or kellyanne or sarah sanders, kavanaugh won't be impeached, etc. it's all just hopes and dreams.cincybearcat said:
I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
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and he still hasn't been impeached. it was the same with mueller. he was going to bring everyone down. he didn't. now this. maybe he'll be impeached. maybe he won't. but he won't be convicted. nor will any of his kids.The Juggler said:
Again, these things probably will not happen, but the odds are probably higher than you think.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just more "we need to bring down the entire trump admin" and it will literally never happen. ivanka won't be indicted, jared won't be indicted, nor will eric or don jr, or kellyanne or sarah sanders, kavanaugh won't be impeached, etc. it's all just hopes and dreams.cincybearcat said:
I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
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HughFreakingDillon said:
and he still hasn't been impeached. it was the same with mueller. he was going to bring everyone down. he didn't. now this. maybe he'll be impeached. maybe he won't. but he won't be convicted. nor will any of his kids.The Juggler said:
Again, these things probably will not happen, but the odds are probably higher than you think.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just more "we need to bring down the entire trump admin" and it will literally never happen. ivanka won't be indicted, jared won't be indicted, nor will eric or don jr, or kellyanne or sarah sanders, kavanaugh won't be impeached, etc. it's all just hopes and dreams.cincybearcat said:
I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
President Pelosi.A month ago most people thought he wouldn’t be impeached. Life comes at you fast.
He’ll be impeached and may very well be convicted in the senate. Won’t be re-elected and will face state felony charges after a dem AG is appointed. “We” don’t know 10% of his transgressions. “Visibly shaken.”HughFreakingDillon said:
and he still hasn't been impeached. it was the same with mueller. he was going to bring everyone down. he didn't. now this. maybe he'll be impeached. maybe he won't. but he won't be convicted. nor will any of his kids.The Juggler said:
Again, these things probably will not happen, but the odds are probably higher than you think.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just more "we need to bring down the entire trump admin" and it will literally never happen. ivanka won't be indicted, jared won't be indicted, nor will eric or don jr, or kellyanne or sarah sanders, kavanaugh won't be impeached, etc. it's all just hopes and dreams.cincybearcat said:
I've seen this mentioned in a lot of places. Don't think it's been mainstream media yet. But that is the type of talk that bugs me. Focus on the investigation. We have proof and will have more re:Donald Trump. If Pence come into it it only muddies the waters.HughFreakingDillon said:
only in a movie would that happen.ikiT said:they're gonna take Pence too.
President Pelosi.A month ago most people thought he wouldn’t be impeached. Life comes at you fast.
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