The Biden ordeal is much easier to understand than the Russia investigation. It also doesn't have the special prosecutor with the AG changing/suppressing results. Last, it is timely. I think there should be a window on receiving the whistleblower complaint, and then start the impeachment inquiry. My guess is this issue damages Trump pretty badly.
The Biden ordeal is much easier to understand than the Russia investigation. It also doesn't have the special prosecutor with the AG changing/suppressing results. Last, it is timely. I think there should be a window on receiving the whistleblower complaint, and then start the impeachment inquiry. My guess is this issue damages Trump pretty badly.
It should but I'm kind of numb to it. I can't remember how many times I've thought "ok this is the one that the GOP will abandon him for" and it just doesn't happen.
I watched the Sunday shows (MTP, This Week, etc.) and about shit when Pompeo and Mnuchin both diverted questions about Ukraine to "I think we should be looking at what Biden did there", etc. Fucking unreal.
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Just curious, what happens if he gets impeached? Does it move to the senate? Why not impeach him in the house and have the senate debate it? Put the pressure on Republican majority in the senate to defend this traitor.
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Just curious, what happens if he gets impeached? Does it move to the senate? Why not impeach him in the house and have the senate debate it? Put the pressure on Republican majority in the senate to defend this traitor.
it goes to the house to vote and then the senate for trial. this is why many don't want to bother, cause the republican controlled senate will never convict, and many believe will embolden his base and garner new support among undecideds as presidential harassment.
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Just curious, what happens if he gets impeached? Does it move to the senate? Why not impeach him in the house and have the senate debate it? Put the pressure on Republican majority in the senate to defend this traitor.
it goes to the house to vote and then the senate for trial. this is why many don't want to bother, cause the republican controlled senate will never convict, and many believe will embolden his base and garner new support among undecideds as presidential harassment.
I’m split on who it would help. Some say dems loose if they don’t impeach. I say impeach now, pass it to the senate. No dithering, just impeach this week.
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Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
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Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
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Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
So what are they impeaching him for? Do they have to be specific? The Russia Treason the Ukraine Treason? Maybe the house dems say this has nothing to do with Russia, only Ukraine? What if the evidence is there with regards to Ukraine? Don’t they need an investigation of the Ukraine situation first and secure that evidence? That could be held up I’m guessing. Wow, so many fruits to pick from the poisonous tree, lol. It probably ain’t happening, is my guess.
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Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
So what are they impeaching him for? Do they have to be specific? The Russia Treason the Ukraine Treason? Maybe the house dems say this has nothing to do with Russia, only Ukraine? What if the evidence is there with regards to Ukraine? Don’t they need an investigation of the Ukraine situation first and secure that evidence? That could be held up I’m guessing. Wow, so many fruits to pick from the poisonous tree, lol. It probably ain’t happening, is my guess.
It would be abuse of power related to Ukraine plus other lesser charges (Mueller report items) that on their own might not be impeachable offenses but as a whole are significant.
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The Biden ordeal is much easier to understand than the Russia investigation. It also doesn't have the special prosecutor with the AG changing/suppressing results. Last, it is timely. I think there should be a window on receiving the whistleblower complaint, and then start the impeachment inquiry. My guess is this issue damages Trump pretty badly.
Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
So what are they impeaching him for? Do they have to be specific? The Russia Treason the Ukraine Treason? Maybe the house dems say this has nothing to do with Russia, only Ukraine? What if the evidence is there with regards to Ukraine? Don’t they need an investigation of the Ukraine situation first and secure that evidence? That could be held up I’m guessing. Wow, so many fruits to pick from the poisonous tree, lol. It probably ain’t happening, is my guess.
It would be abuse of power related to Ukraine plus other lesser charges (Mueller report items) that on their own might not be impeachable offenses but as a whole are significant.
I wouldn’t classify illegal campaign contributions, obstruction of justice and violations of the emoluments clause as insignificant on their own.
Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
If Mitch thinks it's to his advantage, they will hold the trial immediately. If not, then they will stall. There's no question on the outcome, as 2/3 is needed to convict. It would almost be to the Dems advantage to slow walk the process to the Senate. In other words, impeach but not hand over the inquiry for the trial. I don't know if that's allowable or not. But that's what I would do. Let the House impeachment process be the highlight, not the trial.
Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
If Mitch thinks it's to his advantage, they will hold the trial immediately. If not, then they will stall. There's no question on the outcome, as 2/3 is needed to convict. It would almost be to the Dems advantage to slow walk the process to the Senate. In other words, impeach but not hand over the inquiry for the trial. I don't know if that's allowable or not. But that's what I would do. Let the House impeachment process be the highlight, not the trial.
yeah there is plenty of dirt to dig up....but does the public grow weary and see it as another anticlimactic Mueller report?
Mueller should have hammered him. He blew it. Fucking Obama blew it by not getting Garland on to SCOTUS in a recess appt. I'm so pissed off at the dems I can't stand it.
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Would the senate have to take it up right away? Would there be investigation or straight into trial or whatever?
It would take awhile to investigate...which would be perfect timing for 2020 election. Pelosi is worried that it will give tRump a victory if it gets to the Senate and they don't convict. But if the evidence is there then the GOP Senators will have to explain why they didn't vote to convict.
My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
If Mitch thinks it's to his advantage, they will hold the trial immediately. If not, then they will stall. There's no question on the outcome, as 2/3 is needed to convict. It would almost be to the Dems advantage to slow walk the process to the Senate. In other words, impeach but not hand over the inquiry for the trial. I don't know if that's allowable or not. But that's what I would do. Let the House impeachment process be the highlight, not the trial.
yeah there is plenty of dirt to dig up....but does the public grow weary and see it as another anticlimactic Mueller report?
Mueller should have hammered him. He blew it. Fucking Obama blew it by not getting Garland on to SCOTUS in a recess appt. I'm so pissed off at the dems I can't stand it.
A recess appointment would have only been temporary, a year max I believe. After Trump won the election, Garland would have been out either way.
The House should have rolled out a new article of impeachment one for every separate incident (obstruction, emoluments, nepotism, the Fascism, riling people up at rallies, the kids at the border, the nonstop LIES, the repeating of the nonstop LIES, the electoral crimes, the environmental shit, on and on...honestly it's mostly the OBSTRUCTION and the dictator-y shit) EVERY goddamn day of this session. The DEMS have a MAJORITY. He won the electoral college and is a fraud. He's the worst president ever, he's absolutely terrible at his job.
Moscow Mitch can do whatever he wants to do, take it up or stall. Either way he LOSES. History will not be kind to him.
Rob Dreher (a true conservative) at the American Conservative calling for impeachment inquiry to begin..
Let the White House release the transcript of the phone call Trump had with the new Ukrainian president. Depending on what’s in it, I am leaning towards opening an impeachment inquiry. That’s not to say that the president should be impeached. But based on what we already know to be true, this is the most serious violation of norms (at least!) that he has yet done. This is not about what Trump might have done in the 2016 election, regarding Russia; this is what he allegedly has done and might yet do to involve foreign powers to affect the 2020 election.
Biden statement this afternoon. Cooperate or get impeached.
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“Talk about pressuring a foreign country to interfere with and control a U.S. election,” Weld said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “It couldn’t be clearer, and that’s not just undermining democratic institutions. That is treason. It’s treason, pure and simple, and the penalty for treason under the U.S. code is death. That’s the only penalty.”
There's a method to Nancy's madness. We're still more than a year out from the election. I'm beginning to think that she has intentionally withheld and hemmed and hawed, knowing full well that Team Trump Treason's behavior would only be emboldened and he'd commit more and more egregious acts. Until he commits the one that is clear, cut and dried and so glaringly obvious that even the repubs will have to go along. This might have been it. At the least, its enough to hang around every repub candidate for senate that even if Team Trump Treason gets re-elected, the dems solidify their hold on the house and capture the senate. Team Trump Treason either gets impeached or is a four year lame duck. My money is on impeachment with a very ugly senate trial leading up to November 2020. Make those repubs defend the puke, they'll make for great campaign advertisements. Moscow Mitchy Baby has to go.
There's a method to Nancy's madness. We're still more than a year out from the election. I'm beginning to think that she has intentionally withheld and hemmed and hawed, knowing full well that Team Trump Treason's behavior would only be emboldened and he'd commit more and more egregious acts. Until he commits the one that is clear, cut and dried and so glaringly obvious that even the repubs will have to go along. This might have been it. At the least, its enough to hang around every repub candidate for senate that even if Team Trump Treason gets re-elected, the dems solidify their hold on the house and capture the senate. Team Trump Treason either gets impeached or is a four year lame duck. My money is on impeachment with a very ugly senate trial leading up to November 2020. Make those repubs defend the puke, they'll make for great campaign advertisements. Moscow Mitchy Baby has to go.
could be....she's shrewd and smart for sure
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1. No he didn't do that, never would 2. Okay maybe that happened. 3. It happened, but not for the reason you think. 4. Okay, it's for a diabolical purpose, but the Democrats would have done it too 5. (Now Rudy gets involved) Yeah he did it, but so what? He was right to do it.
Your order may vary, but we are definitely in the steps 4/5 now.
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The time has come. Impeach now!
From Heather Cox Richardson's FB page:
Totally
bizarre day, and one of significance. While we still don't know
anything more about either the whistleblower or the content of his/her
complaint, President Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani
acknowledged all the current allegations on TV today. Trump indeed
withheld appropriated defense funds from Ukraine to get the newly
elected leader to investigate a political enemy's son in order to help
Trump win the 2020 election, although there is no evidence the son or
his father did anything wrong (if there were, the American Department of
Justice, run by Trump loyalists, would investigate). All that- the
shocking abuse of power and the undermining of our national security by
the president- is now openly acknowledged. So the question is no longer
"Did he do it?" but is now "What are we going to do about it?"
While congresspeople conferred in private, over the course of the day,
Trump became increasingly unhinged. He told reporters: that he would win
a Nobel Prize for a lot of things except that the system was rigged,
that we would be at war with North Korea if he had not won the 2016
election, he said he wanted people to hear the Ukraine phone call and
then minutes later yelled that he had not said that (it was on tape),
and claimed that if a Republican had done what Trump's opponent Joseph
Biden had done he would "get the electric chair." (There is no evidence
of wrongdoing by Biden.)
Then, this evening, Giuliani implicated
the State Department in the scandal by saying its officials had asked
him, Trump's personal lawyer, to undertake the mission to Ukraine in
which he had pressured them to uncover corruption by the Bidens.
Whew.
But the day was not over. Two big things happened tonight.
At 9:00, seven freshmen Representatives, Democrats from swing
districts, all veterans, published an op-ed in the Washington Post
reminding readers that they had taken an oath to defend their country,
and with that oath in mind, called for impeachment hearings. This call,
from swing districts, is significant.
Then, at 10:40, the
Washington Post broke the story that the Office of Management and
Budget, under Trump's acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney (who wears a
bunch of hats in this administration) had stopped the Ukraine payments
funded by Congress to push back against Russian incursions. The article
said that by mid-August, "lawmakers were acutely aware that OMB had
assumed all decision-making authority from the Defense and State
departments" and was acting according to Trump's wishes alone. This is a
major leak from within the White House (and the timing of the
whistleblower's complaint at right about the moment this was happening
has led to some speculation about who it might be).
So what we
have, just over the midnight line, is a beleaguered president who is
melting down, White House staffers beginning to leak major scandals, and
lawmakers from swing districts who have moved toward impeachment.
Just reporting the bare bones here because it has been a very long day
and I am exhausted, but things feel different tonight. It feels like the
walls around Trump are cracking.
We'll see. Tuesday will tell us which way the wind is blowing.
Trump also tested out a new excuse today.. that the other countries are not doing enough. I heard a contra-stat that European countries have sent 16.5 billion in aid to Ukraine since the Crimea incident. This allocation from Congress was less than 400 million. So...there's that.
Rob Dreher (a true conservative) at the American Conservative calling for impeachment inquiry to begin..
Let the White House release the transcript of the phone call Trump had with the new Ukrainian president. Depending on what’s in it, I am leaning towards opening an impeachment inquiry. That’s not to say that the president should be impeached. But based on what we already know to be true, this is the most serious violation of norms (at least!) that he has yet done. This is not about what Trump might have done in the 2016 election, regarding Russia; this is what he allegedly has done and might yet do to involve foreign powers to affect the 2020 election.
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
I watched the Sunday shows (MTP, This Week, etc.) and about shit when Pompeo and Mnuchin both diverted questions about Ukraine to "I think we should be looking at what Biden did there", etc. Fucking unreal.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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-EV 8/14/93
I say impeach now, pass it to the senate. No dithering, just impeach this week.
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My thought is that it won't change anyones mind at this point and they should move to impeach. The tRumpsters won't care if the evidence is there or not. It can only strenghen his downfall in my opinion.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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Mueller should have hammered him. He blew it. Fucking Obama blew it by not getting Garland on to SCOTUS in a recess appt. I'm so pissed off at the dems I can't stand it.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
The House should have rolled out a new article of impeachment one for every separate incident (obstruction, emoluments, nepotism, the Fascism, riling people up at rallies, the kids at the border, the nonstop LIES, the repeating of the nonstop LIES, the electoral crimes, the environmental shit, on and on...honestly it's mostly the OBSTRUCTION and the dictator-y shit) EVERY goddamn day of this session. The DEMS have a MAJORITY. He won the electoral college and is a fraud. He's the worst president ever, he's absolutely terrible at his job.
Moscow Mitch can do whatever he wants to do, take it up or stall. Either way he LOSES. History will not be kind to him.
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what a dick.Let the White House release the transcript of the phone call Trump had with the new Ukrainian president. Depending on what’s in it, I am leaning towards opening an impeachment inquiry. That’s not to say that the president should be impeached. But based on what we already know to be true, this is the most serious violation of norms (at least!) that he has yet done. This is not about what Trump might have done in the 2016 election, regarding Russia; this is what he allegedly has done and might yet do to involve foreign powers to affect the 2020 election.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-blackmailing-ukraine/
Cooperate or get impeached.
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1. No he didn't do that, never would
2. Okay maybe that happened.
3. It happened, but not for the reason you think.
4. Okay, it's for a diabolical purpose, but the Democrats would have done it too
5. (Now Rudy gets involved) Yeah he did it, but so what? He was right to do it.
Your order may vary, but we are definitely in the steps 4/5 now.
Totally bizarre day, and one of significance. While we still don't know anything more about either the whistleblower or the content of his/her complaint, President Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani acknowledged all the current allegations on TV today. Trump indeed withheld appropriated defense funds from Ukraine to get the newly elected leader to investigate a political enemy's son in order to help Trump win the 2020 election, although there is no evidence the son or his father did anything wrong (if there were, the American Department of Justice, run by Trump loyalists, would investigate). All that- the shocking abuse of power and the undermining of our national security by the president- is now openly acknowledged. So the question is no longer "Did he do it?" but is now "What are we going to do about it?"
While congresspeople conferred in private, over the course of the day, Trump became increasingly unhinged. He told reporters: that he would win a Nobel Prize for a lot of things except that the system was rigged, that we would be at war with North Korea if he had not won the 2016 election, he said he wanted people to hear the Ukraine phone call and then minutes later yelled that he had not said that (it was on tape), and claimed that if a Republican had done what Trump's opponent Joseph Biden had done he would "get the electric chair." (There is no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden.)
Then, this evening, Giuliani implicated the State Department in the scandal by saying its officials had asked him, Trump's personal lawyer, to undertake the mission to Ukraine in which he had pressured them to uncover corruption by the Bidens.
Whew.
But the day was not over. Two big things happened tonight.
At 9:00, seven freshmen Representatives, Democrats from swing districts, all veterans, published an op-ed in the Washington Post reminding readers that they had taken an oath to defend their country, and with that oath in mind, called for impeachment hearings. This call, from swing districts, is significant.
Then, at 10:40, the Washington Post broke the story that the Office of Management and Budget, under Trump's acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney (who wears a bunch of hats in this administration) had stopped the Ukraine payments funded by Congress to push back against Russian incursions. The article said that by mid-August, "lawmakers were acutely aware that OMB had assumed all decision-making authority from the Defense and State departments" and was acting according to Trump's wishes alone. This is a major leak from within the White House (and the timing of the whistleblower's complaint at right about the moment this was happening has led to some speculation about who it might be).
So what we have, just over the midnight line, is a beleaguered president who is melting down, White House staffers beginning to leak major scandals, and lawmakers from swing districts who have moved toward impeachment.
Just reporting the bare bones here because it has been a very long day and I am exhausted, but things feel different tonight. It feels like the walls around Trump are cracking.
We'll see. Tuesday will tell us which way the wind is blowing.
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