Donald Trump

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.

all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 

No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  

sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 

Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  

I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 

I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.

all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 

No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  

sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 

Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  

I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 

I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?

Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 

correct....they had her by 3% nationally and she ended up at 2.1%

The only outliers were MI, PA and WI where tRump won by a combined 77,000 votes.  That's what got him elected.

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.

Your republican friends aren't very familiar with statistics, are they?  "Well, they didn't ask me"....

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Beyond the topline of Trump's approval rating, CNN also asked how strongly Americans approved or disapproved of Trump's job performance. The percentage who moderately approve (11%) is similar to the percentage who moderately disapprove (10%).

The real nugget is that the 45% who strongly disapprove is significantly higher than the 28% who strongly approve. That 17-point gap is wider than the 7-point gap we found in April of this year.

What's so interesting about that is some form of enthusiasm gap on approval exists across age, gender, race and even education levels.

Now, it's not unusual for there to be an enthusiasm gap in which more people strongly disapprove than strongly approve of a president. We saw it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama at roughly this point in their presidencies.

The difference is that Trump's is much larger. Obama's strongly disapprove rating in CNN polling was never more than 10 points higher than his strongly approve rating through his first three years in office. The same held true with Bush.

Coming into 2020, it's easy to imagine that Trump may lack the enthusiastic supporters he will likely need to overcome what looks to be an unpopular standing overall.

So let me tell you how the other half looks at polls.

Remember that FOX poll that stated the 37% or whatever said he was "tearing the country apart"?

I posted that and none of my rep friends could find it and thought I was lying.

I told them how to find it and still called me a fibber.

Posted direct link to that very question and it's findings and question the "amount of people whom actually were polled on that question".

Polls don't matter to them.  It is just mind blowing.

all polls had Hillary winning by a landslide. this is why trumpsters don't believe polls anymore. regardless of the fact that the 2016 polls were only off in a few keys areas, which led to him winning. they don't understand that or choose to ignore it. 

No they didn't.  The average of all polls was HRC +2.1, which was quite close to the result and within the MOE.  The polls were remarkably accurate.  The difference is that these are national polls, so they don't achieve statistical significance at the state level.  

sorry, not a landslide, wrong wording, but a 92% chance of winning. from what I recall of watching that night. 

Yes, the "inside straight" argument.  And it was true.  He won Michigan and PA by less than a percent each.  Those flip, and the election flips.  The problem is not the polls and the stats, the problem is the conclusions drawn by media analysts, disregarding the margins of error.  

I think it is incredible that people still do not understand this 3 years later. 

I mentioned that I had not seen 1 single poll with Clinton ahead by much.  55/45 yes but no landslide?

Most polls leading up to Election Day correctly had her up by a few percentage points. 

correct....they had her by 3% nationally and she ended up at 2.1%

The only outliers were MI, PA and WI where tRump won by a combined 77,000 votes.  That's what got him elected.

That and Putin on the ritz’s social media campaign that Team Trump Treason’s campaign knew about and “colluded” with.

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I found his aggressive rhetoric at the 9/11 memorial totally inappropriate. What a classless POS.

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I found his aggressive rhetoric at the 9/11 memorial totally inappropriate. What a classless POS.