The all-purpose heavy duty Climate Chaos thread (sprinkled with hope).
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evsgjamm said:My bro-in-law is also developing a company whereby he is taking plastics and converting them into biofuels. His words, not mine "there are no harmful by-products released into the atmosphere." or some shit like that. He seemed super pumped.
And now.. this:"With energy and the environment playing an important role in the fall election, Canadians face starkly different policy positions from political parties, together with a bewildering array of information and disinformation. Here is my rather eclectic list of little-known facts, head-scratching paradoxes and utter hypocrisy.
CLIMATE EMERGENCY
On June 17, the House of Commons passed a motion declaring a National Climate Emergency.Firstly, there is no such thing as a “national” climate emergency. Climate change is global, not national, and Canada’s contribution to global CO2 emissions is a minuscule 1.6 per cent. Here are the answers to some questions that will help you assess whether there’s really a “climate emergency.”
Apocalyptic projections of rapid sea level rises are driving municipal and provincial governments on both our east and west coasts to implement “sea level rise plans” that include sterilizing waterfront from development, building sea barriers and even buying out and destroying homes that are deemed vulnerable. So just how fast are sea levels rising? Here again the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) provides the answer. Despite all the calamitous rhetoric, the NOAA states that sea levels “continue to rise at the rate of about one-eighth of an inch (3.2 mm) per year.” At that rate, a house built 10 feet above sea level today would still be 9 feet 7 inches above sea level 40 years from now.
After hundreds of billions of dollars invested, wind and solar contribute just two per cent of global energy supply
CLIMATE CHANGE HYPOCRISY
South Africa, India, the Philippines, South Korea, Japan and China, all signatories to the Paris climate accord, are building a combined 1,800 new coal-fired power plants. Coal plants emit twice as much CO2 as natural gas plants. Meanwhile, international environmental groups campaign against sending Canadian LNG to those countries. And here at home, the Trudeau Liberals have just introduced a tax specifically designed to discourage the building of new cleaner-burning gas-fired power plants as they continue to pursue the fantasy that wind and solar will keep the lights on. Good luck with that. After hundreds of billions of dollars invested, wind and solar contribute just two per cent of global energy supply. And that’s only when the wind is blowing, and the sun is shining.Joe Oliver: We should prepare for extreme weather, but tying it to climate change is a mistake
Quebec should scrap its cap-and-trade program: It’s inefficient and hurting competitiveness
Counterpoint: Why we believe Canada must stop oil expansion, even if world demand is rising
CLIMATE CHANGE MONOVISION
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) would have us believe that fossil fuel emissions are the sole reason for climate change. But what about urbanization and deforestation? A study by the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs states that the urban population rose from 750 million in 1950 to 4.2 billion in 2018. We don’t need the IPCC’s hugely complex computer models to know that cities are hotter. All we have to do is walk from a paved sun-heated street lined with concrete buildings to a grassy park. Rather than reflecting the sun’s rays back to outer space, all that concrete and pavement absorbs the sun rays, creating a giant heat sink. Likewise, deforestation is turning vast tracts of cool African and South American jungles into heat-absorbing barrens. The U.S. EPA summarizes the combined effect, “Processes such as deforestation and urbanization … contribute to changes in climate.” Trying to deal with any problem without considering all possible causes is both a foolish and dangerous strategy.FIRST, DO NO HARM
The Liberal government’s proposed “national clean fuel standard” requires increased biofuel content in motor fuels. Government mandated biofuel content requirements in North America and the EU have driven the burning of critically important jungle habitat to make way for palm oil plantations. On the islands of Borneo and Sumatra, over 50,000 Orangutans have died because of palm oil deforestation.WHO BURNS THE STUFF ANYWAY
Several municipal Councils, including Toronto and Victoria, are looking to sue fossil-fuel producers for causing climate change, but 70 per cent of emissions come from their own constituents. And imagine their outcry if fuel producers failed to deliver!B.C. GREEN INCOHERENCE
B.C. Premier Horgan, a champion of carbon taxes, called an enquiry to investigate high gasoline prices, but prohibited the enquiry panel from considering the price impact of provincial taxes. He also wants Alberta to build a new refinery to supply his province, but he’s against the pipeline that’s needed to carry it.SORRY, ONLY FOREIGN TANKERS ALLOWED
The Trudeau government implemented a tanker ban prohibiting movement of Canadian oil on the northern B.C. coast. Meanwhile, hundreds of tankers churn through the delicate and much more enclosed St. Lawrence estuaries carrying oil from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Russia, Iraq, Nigeria, Angola and Algeria. And while ship/whale collisions are virtually unheard-of on BC’s northern coast, those foreign oil tankers move through waters where a critically endangered Northern Right Whale was killed in a ship collision just last month.THE GREAT ANTI-OIL INDUSTRY WARRIOR IS BACK
Gerald Butts, former personal secretary to the prime minister, is back to help the Liberals win re-election. Before joining the Prime Minster’s Office (PMO), Butts was CEO of World Wildlife Canada (WWF), an organization dedicated to “landlocking” the oilsands by stopping new pipelines. In his role as head honcho of the PMO, he was the mastermind behind policies that could cripple our country’s oil industry. Gerald Butts has admitted via his Twitter account to receiving $361,642 from WWF during his first two years at the PMO. He claims it was severance, but how many Canadians have ever received severance for quitting their job?So there you have it, my list of points to ponder through those long and balmy mid-summer evenings that “we the north” enjoy."
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Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse
https://youtu.be/Wi8H-gBDKnQ
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Spiritual_Chaos said:
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse
https://youtu.be/Wi8H-gBDKnQ
"They [the Democrats] just didn't want to have another fight."What do they think you're getting paid to do? Pathetic."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
For those of you in the U.S. (or else where, for that matter!) who get it and really care, here's your chance to take action. Join the U.S. Climate Strike, September 20th!Author and 350.org organizer Bill McKibben says this about the strike:Last week I ended up in jail for a little while, because I’d sat down in a Congress member's office to protest the deadly confluence of climate and immigration policy. You can read about my day in the New Yorker1 story shared on the bottom of this email, but my point in sharing it with you is not to say that I acted nobly or that it was a big deal.
Instead, my point is simply that sometimes you have to act even if you’re not entirely sure what the effect will be. We’re coming up on the next great moment in the climate movement, the global all-ages climate strike on Sept. 20. Years of sustained resistance from Standing Rock to the school strikes and beyond, particularly from youth of color, have led us to this moment. So let’s make the most of it.
Whatever you do that day — whether you walk out of work or school, close down your business, or join a protest, it will help build the groundswell that is now clearly rising.
When you strike, you’ll be striking for justice above all — it’s one thing you can do on behalf of those who are incarcerated at the border, or who are living so close to the margin that taking a day off is not possible. If you have some flexibility in your life, it’s time to put it to work. If you don’t, sign up anyway, we’ll find other ways for you to participate and show your support.
The UN’s best guess is that unchecked climate change could produce a billion climate refugees this century. Think about that for a moment — a billion people whose lives would be utterly, permanently, devastatingly upended. Then think about whether you can take a day to do something real about it, even without knowing exactly what change it will produce.
Together we build movements, and when those movements get big enough they change history. You change history. Thank you for being a big part of it
Let’s make change,
Bill McKibben
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Here is some good news. It appears that this big piece of pumice will help Australias reefs!
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-massive-raft-of-volcanic-rock-is-floating-towards-australia-and-that-s-good-news/amp
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tempo_n_groove said:Here is some good news. It appears that this big piece of pumice will help Australias reefs!
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-massive-raft-of-volcanic-rock-is-floating-towards-australia-and-that-s-good-news/ampBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:Here is some good news. It appears that this big piece of pumice will help Australias reefs!
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-massive-raft-of-volcanic-rock-is-floating-towards-australia-and-that-s-good-news/amp0 -
tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:Here in Nassau County Long Island they are finally stopping the use of plastic bags.
Believe it or not there is not a bunch of blowback so far which I am happy about.
Mention plastic straws though and people lose their minds.
We in our houshold are trying to find somewhere local that can do refills of soap, conditioner and whatnot.
Nothing exists.
We have switched to a shampoo bar to cut down on plastics.
Trying to find alternatives all the time.
It might take a little difficult research but you never know!?!That would be great!We had a shop like that here in Placerville and it was great to be able to refill our laundry detergent bottles, etc. Sadly, they couldn't make a go of it. But then, this is a rather conservative (in the worst sense of the word) town. It's slowly getting better but not fast enough.
I really want to try this.
@tempo_n_groove :
Just saw this and thought you might be interested, since you were thinking about starting a no-packaging business.
Here is the website for Nada, a no-packaging grocery store in Vancouver, BC. No packaging means that you can choose exactly how much of each item you want - 2 eggs instead of 12, for instance, or one sprig of basil instead of a whole bag. It looks pretty cool; wish I could shop there but there's this little problem of ocean in the way.
https://www.nadagrocery.com/
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Las Vegas- our future Hell on Earth:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/02/las-vegas-climate-crisis-extreme-heat-hellish-future
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Americans built in the desert because they can, Middle Eastern people live in the desert because they have. Either move or build an air conditioned dome. There are not many options.Give Peas A Chance…0
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HughFreakingDillon said:
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brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:
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Bentleyspop said:Right on, Pearl Jam!I'm off today anyway but if I wasn't, I would not go to work. But even that would be a weak commitment. I'm both self-employed and help out my wife and her business partner at the Bookery. So to those who truly did go on strike for the climate today, I salute you!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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