is vault 9 a good choice?
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Where in my post do I talk about already released shows?PB11041 said:
the entire tours save for a show here and there were released from 2000 on. they are not going to waste time on vault releases for shows already released just to put them on vinyl.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What are the points?mcgruff10 said:
Great points.PB11041 said:
because I already have every show from 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018 on disc. Vault 8, I have it, I listen to it, but it was a wasted opportunity, the whole entire tour except for one other one off show was released. Releasing shows just because they have more diverse sets is of no interest to me just to get it on vinyl. Waste of time for me. Want more 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996 and 1998.Spiritual_Chaos said:
There's a flipside to that coin, why would people wanna shoe horn these vault releases into a period where they had no albums to pick songs from and you just hear Ten and VS over and over.PB11041 said:
definitely focus on the pre 2000 era, I just don't get why people want to shoe horn these vault releases into periods where nearly 100% of the shows were available on disc, download and many currently still available for download.mcgruff10 said:
Enough of the earlier shows? There's like 10 official bootlegs from 1990-99 and how many hundreds of bootlegs from 2000 on? I say keep the vault from 1990-99.PJ_Soul said:
Agreed. I've had enough of the earlier shows. I'm sincerely ONLY buying them at this point to keep the collection complete (I can't seem to help it even though I want to not do that) - it's been maybe a few years now since a Vault was really really good IMO. That is a bit disappointing. I want some Jack Irons, and more that include at least Riot Act, and some S/T would be nice too..... I know what would make the wait for those eras a lot easier: RELEASE VAULT 2 ON VINYL!!!Spiritual_Chaos said:Would have preferred them picking Vaults from all the eras and years, and not choosing a show taking place on the same tour and one week after another Vault-show so soon after that one.
The same with the 1998-shows.
So, I would have rather have had this VAULT #15 or whatever and have had some 1997, 1996, 2004 etc in between. And some shows that are not from the US.
1990-0
1991-0
1992-2 Vault 1, Drop in the park
1993-2 Vault 5, Vault 9
1994-1 Live at the Orpheum
1995-1 Vault 7
1996-0
1997-0
1998-3 Live on 2 Legs, Vault 3, Vault 6
1999-0
2000- 72 + Vault 4
01/02-0
2003- 73 + Benny
2004- 0
2005- 32 + Vault 8
2006- 71
There will be very little pre 1993 as is, Brett Eliason did not begin multi-tracking shows in earnest until the fall 1993 versus tour, prior to that there are probably a handful of multi-tracks if I had to guess.
There are at minimum probably 6 fall 1993 Spring 1994 still worth releasing, 3 from each I would like to see for sure
-Berkley 10.31.93
-Dallas 11.12.93
-UNO 11.17.93
-Chicago 3.13.94
-St Pete 3.29.94
-Rochester 4.7.94
Releasing two nights from a Bridge School benefit > any concert from 91-94
I'd like unique shows that differ. Regardless of era. But I do want them to cover every era. Including the early stuff.
The Vic was in 2007, and that was a great and unique show with a great setlist. Me having listened to every show of 2006 or 2008 doesn't negate that fact.
While I bet most of these will be pretty damn similiar and similiar to the two ones from 93 we already got:
-Berkley 10.31.93
-Dallas 11.12.93
-UNO 11.17.93
So how about wanting to get those released digitally instead of clogging up the yearly vaults with five 1993 shows.
(I think they should have focused on getting out one vault from every 90s tour/year though, and skipped the 2000 and 2005 show. With us being starved of quality shows from that decade)
Additionally, we are never going to see a post 1998 show fit only 3 LPs unless they intentionally remove large chunks or choose specifically short festival shows.
So maybe some day they will do 4 - 5 lp releases of a show they felt particularly good about during a tour like Jones Beach 3 2000 or something, but until such time, releasing shows from latter years just to address time periods as I said, and it is just my personal preference, has no interest to me.
I am stoked for this release and as long as they keep picking shows that are less "Soldier Field" (ie one we all had in pretty awesome digital quality) the older shows will interest me a great deal.
I am extremely excited for this one and fully expect that Vault 10 will hit a great show from 1996, currently the only year that does not have an official release in which they toured extensively and were multi-tracking.
I would definitely welcome them doing more digital/Cd only vault releases from the early years, but again the idea of a vault vinyl for an already released show is a big meh to me.
I am fully aware this by all signs is not tenclubs intention.
The show I did reference - The Vic 2007 - was not released before. The 2005 show was to my knowdlwge not either(?)
I think they released they picked Soldier Field and the LAS vegas show to underut the ”grey area bootlegs” existing of it.
I Wonder If vaults Will be the only releases for older shows on vinyl. Or If they, like e.g Nirvana, Will release some 90s show that perheps was videotaped on both BD and vinyl in the future.
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I doubt it would ever happen but it would be sweet to have a vault to represent the bridge schools. Something like:
Side A/B: 11/1/92: Footsteps, jeremy, black, alive, daughter, angel, I am a patriot
Side C/D: 10/2/94: wash, not for you, immortality, elderly, daughter, black, bee girl
Side E/F: 10/20/96: sometimes, elderly, corduroy, off he goes, nothing man, daughter, footsteps, porch, around the bendI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I think it should be a wide release and not a vault with the generic black cover. A box set with all the nights (or all the appearances, but mixing shows from both nights). And the proceeds going to the school.mcgruff10 said:I doubt it would ever happen but it would be sweet to have a vault to represent the bridge schools. Something like:
Side A/B: 11/1/92: Footsteps, jeremy, black, alive, daughter, angel, I am a patriot
Side C/D: 10/2/94: wash, not for you, immortality, elderly, daughter, black, bee girl
Side E/F: 10/20/96: sometimes, elderly, corduroy, off he goes, nothing man, daughter, footsteps, porch, around the bend
And why skimp out and not include the times after 96? Stop being like this. haha.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:
I think it should be a wide release and not a vault with the generic black cover. A box set with all the nights (or all the appearances, but mixing shows from both nights). And the proceeds going to the school.mcgruff10 said:I doubt it would ever happen but it would be sweet to have a vault to represent the bridge schools. Something like:
Side A/B: 11/1/92: Footsteps, jeremy, black, alive, daughter, angel, I am a patriot
Side C/D: 10/2/94: wash, not for you, immortality, elderly, daughter, black, bee girl
Side E/F: 10/20/96: sometimes, elderly, corduroy, off he goes, nothing man, daughter, footsteps, porch, around the bend
And why skimp out and not include the times after 96? Stop being like this. haha.
I was thinking three records per vault. I guess divide up the rest anyway you want: 99/01/03/04/06/10/14Spiritual_Chaos said:
I think it should be a wide release and not a vault with the generic black cover. A box set with all the nights (or all the appearances, but mixing shows from both nights). And the proceeds going to the school.mcgruff10 said:I doubt it would ever happen but it would be sweet to have a vault to represent the bridge schools. Something like:
Side A/B: 11/1/92: Footsteps, jeremy, black, alive, daughter, angel, I am a patriot
Side C/D: 10/2/94: wash, not for you, immortality, elderly, daughter, black, bee girl
Side E/F: 10/20/96: sometimes, elderly, corduroy, off he goes, nothing man, daughter, footsteps, porch, around the bend
And why skimp out and not include the times after 96? Stop being like this. haha.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Bruce and Metallica have released their bridge shows. Would be nice choices for PJ vaults. The 99 and 01 shows were great too. All of theme really.mcgruff10 said:I doubt it would ever happen but it would be sweet to have a vault to represent the bridge schools. Something like:
Side A/B: 11/1/92: Footsteps, jeremy, black, alive, daughter, angel, I am a patriot
Side C/D: 10/2/94: wash, not for you, immortality, elderly, daughter, black, bee girl
Side E/F: 10/20/96: sometimes, elderly, corduroy, off he goes, nothing man, daughter, footsteps, porch, around the bend...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0 -
My local record shop has a vinyl boot of the 99 Bridge shows. Ive been tempted by it a few times0
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I have never seen this, I wonder how it sounds.cp3iverson said:My local record shop has a vinyl boot of the 99 Bridge shows. Ive been tempted by it a few timesI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Probably like the mp3s it was taken frommcgruff10 said:
I have never seen this, I wonder how it sounds.cp3iverson said:My local record shop has a vinyl boot of the 99 Bridge shows. Ive been tempted by it a few times6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/160
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