Do you think China wants to and could invade Australia by military force?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    brianlux said:
    China may well be making a bid for global dominance.  Only question is will that country fall down dead of emphysema before or after the finish line.  They are the second most polluted country in the word next to Innnnndia-ah, (you're my love song).
    Their own people may turn against their government.
    I am sad to see they will probably take over control of Hong Kong.
    Could be. They'd need a lot of organizing.

    I thought China did control Hong Kong.  Sovereignty was turned over to China in 1997 but I guess they are still sort of independent... for now.

    Smellyman , if you don't mind me asking, what's your take on all this?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Yeah the UK handed it back to China. They have a number of years still until they are under the full control of China I believe?
    But China could send in the military to stop the protestors.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Yeah the UK handed it back to China. They have a number of years still until they are under the full control of China I believe?
    But China could send in the military to stop the protestors.
    Is there a set date for China to take over or would it have to be a forced deal?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited August 2019
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    brianlux said:
    China may well be making a bid for global dominance.  Only question is will that country fall down dead of emphysema before or after the finish line.  They are the second most polluted country in the word next to Innnnndia-ah, (you're my love song).
    Their own people may turn against their government.
    I am sad to see they will probably take over control of Hong Kong.
    Could be. They'd need a lot of organizing.

    I thought China did control Hong Kong.  Sovereignty was turned over to China in 1997 but I guess they are still sort of independent... for now.

    Smellyman , if you don't mind me asking, what's your take on all this?

    British did rule in in 97 and China was supposed to leave HK alone for another 50 years.  They begin enacting their control slowly and deliberately.  Only allowing Beijing approved candidates to run for office, outspoken anti China citizens disappeared and ended up in China prisons.  Like the bookstore owners (Brian....) in Causeway Bay  This led to the Umbrella movement a few years ago protesting the fraud elections in HK.

    China calls the original treaty/document signed with England to be a 'historical document' and that they are under no obligation to follow it.  Fuck China.

    Now I live in Taiwan which is a completely autonomous democratic country and China uses similar bullshit hear.  Notice airlines maps call it Province of China and the UN and other governments won't officially recognize Taiwan because they are all fucking scared of China.  In sporting events Taiwan is called Chinese Taipei.  Wish other countries would grow a backbone.  Taiwan has one.

    They also have a massive online counter bot patrol (much like Russia) laying into HK and Taiwan and other issues spreading propaganda.  They already control the media in China and it is really weird seeing the 'news' they get compared to what is actually happening.

    Many years ago I thought China would start to go the other way and become more open as the people and country get richer.  Sadly it seems to going the other way.  Maybe it's just a wave building before it breaks.
    Post edited by Smellyman on
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Yeah the UK handed it back to China. They have a number of years still until they are under the full control of China I believe?
    But China could send in the military to stop the protestors.
    Is there a set date for China to take over or would it have to be a forced deal?
    I believe Smellyman answered?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited August 2019
    Smellyman said:
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    brianlux said:
    China may well be making a bid for global dominance.  Only question is will that country fall down dead of emphysema before or after the finish line.  They are the second most polluted country in the word next to Innnnndia-ah, (you're my love song).
    Their own people may turn against their government.
    I am sad to see they will probably take over control of Hong Kong.
    Could be. They'd need a lot of organizing.

    I thought China did control Hong Kong.  Sovereignty was turned over to China in 1997 but I guess they are still sort of independent... for now.

    Smellyman , if you don't mind me asking, what's your take on all this?

    British did rule in in 97 and China was supposed to leave HK alone for another 50 years.  They begin enacting their control slowly and deliberately.  Only allowing Beijing approved candidates to run for office, outspoken anti China citizens disappeared and ended up in China prisons.  Like the bookstore owners (Brian....) in Causeway Bay  This led to the Umbrella movement a few years ago protesting the fraud elections in HK.

    China calls the original treaty/document signed with England to be a 'historical document' and that they are under no obligation to follow it.  Fuck China.

    Now I live in Taiwan which is a completely autonomous democratic country and China uses similar bullshit hear.  Notice airlines maps call it Province of China and the UN and other governments won't officially recognize Taiwan because they are all fucking scared of China.  In sporting events Taiwan is called Chinese Taipei.  Wish other countries would grow a backbone.  Taiwan has one.

    They also have a massive online counter bot patrol (much like Russia) laying into HK and Taiwan and other issues spreading propaganda.  They already control the media in China and it is really weird seeing the 'news' they get compared to what is actually happening.

    Many years ago I thought China would start to go the other way and become more open as the people and country get richer.  Sadly it seems to going the other way.  Maybe it's just a wave building before it breaks.
    Fascinating- thank you Smellyman.  Taiwan sounds like a great place.  I hope the country can keep China off it's back somehow.  Australia too!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Yeah the UK handed it back to China. They have a number of years still until they are under the full control of China I believe?
    But China could send in the military to stop the protestors.
    Is there a set date for China to take over or would it have to be a forced deal?
    I believe Smellyman answered?
    Yes! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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