America's Gun Violence

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Why not?  Are your jollies at the range really worth the risk your kids face every time they go into public?
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    bootlegger10 said:
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
    That's an excellent idea.  
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
    That's an excellent idea.  
    It is, love it.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    bootlegger10 said:
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
    Exactly. Law enforcement personnel in the line of duty and ammo used exclusively for training or at ranges would be exempt from the increase, but only when used in those capacities. Caught violating the regulation, you lose your guns and ammo for 10 years. Keep those range owners on the up and up so they don't start selling on the side and letting Randy Rifle take it home.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
    I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    Two more have passed away in El Paso...bringing the death count to 22. Such a sad state of affairs. You can't even walk into a Walmart these days without having to fear for your life. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    edited August 2019
    Maybe the wave is starting:
    https://apple.news/Az1TJ3zGnSQeh95GxwsX-dA

    Republican state lawmaker criticizes his party for 'enabling white supremacy'

    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,224
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
    That's an excellent idea.  
    How would that be regulated the range would have to count ammo in&out of range ..
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    josevolution said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Perhaps ammunition purchased and used at the ranges could be exempt from tax.  
    That's an excellent idea.  
    How would that be regulated the range would have to count ammo in&out of range ..
    That's right.  Put in a metal detector so you can't leave with any ammo.  
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Maybe the wave is starting:
    https://apple.news/Az1TJ3zGnSQeh95GxwsX-dA

    Republican state lawmaker criticizes his party for 'enabling white supremacy'

    Maybe it is. We can hope. 

    Or maybe it’s not. 

    https://apple.news/A_wy8FGq7T6qYdwPn1Z-PJg

    Ohio State Rep blamed everything from gay marriage and trans people to Obama to professional athletes who take a knee for this shooting. Thankfully, some of her GOP colleagues have called her out. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
    I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  
    I guess it depends on how many bodies pile up
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    edited August 2019
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    Post edited by lastexitlondon on


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
    I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  
    You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    edited August 2019
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
    I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  
    You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 
    I listed about ten other things that I would be ok with, taxing the shit out of something is not the answer imo.  As a gun owner I am pretty open minded but I definitely do not agree with this idea.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    vaggar99 said:
    you really can't control what people want to do.  you can control what the things they access to.  why is that so hard?  
    Exactly.  Why shouldn't we make it as difficult as possible for these mass shootings to happen?

    Step one would be to ban assault weapons.  Ban sales of modification items.  Ban the gun show loophole.  Put a 500% sales tax on ammunition. Require registration and licensing.

    Funny thing is that this would only have an effect on a small percentage of people.  99% of us would not be effected at all.
    500% tax on ammo?  Come on. 
    Fuck yes.  Do you think the shootings in Chicago would drop after that?
    I m not for taxing anything like that.  I m not sure if homicides would go down but I do know that this has zero chance of passing.  
    You’re right, it has zero chance of passing - as long as gun owners have that mentality. If the gun lovers ever actually said “we need to find a way to solve this”, things would be different. Instead, it’s always “that’ll never work”. 
    500% is a bit over the top, but I don't know that it has zero chance.  There have been "sin" taxes on alcohol and tobacco for years.  The same concepts can be applied.  In fact, state and local gov't could accomplish this if they had the political will.  It doesn't have to be federal.  
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    edited August 2019
    Take the gun away and what do you have......no trigger. Simple  . Please explain why you MUST  have a gun please tell me?


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    lastexitlondon said:
    Take the gun away and what do you have......no trigger. Simple  
    You and I know that will never happen.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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