Do you think China wants to and could invade Australia by military force?

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    brianlux said:
    One of the big reasons China continues to flex it's muscles around various parts of the globe is because so many people continue to buy shit products made in China.  If you shop at Walmart or Target, you are supporting China's massive and highly corrupt economy.  Most of the crap those places sell is made in China.  You can't shop at those stores and say "I hate China" (or, for that matter, say you are worried about environmental issues) without being hypocritical. 
    People would have to give up their precious Apple products too.  They don't make just 'crap'.  They make everything.

    People love their 'things' though.


    An American friend of mine here in Taiwan is so happy that Trump has stopped China from taking over the South China Sea which Obama allowed them to do.  It's not true?  LOL
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    edited August 2019
    brianlux said:
    They may very well rule the world someday.  Very likely after I'm dead and gone.  It will be the west greed that will allow that to happen...

    Just like we allowed the world to boil.

    Fuck humans. Except for Tegan, Sara, Greta and Tom Hanks.
    The may gain the world, but not for long.  Like us, they will eat up the resources and will be left with a highly dysfunctional world that no one will want.

    Is Hanks doing good things these days?  Haven't heard much about him lately.
    He collects typewriters and is gonna star in the remake of the Swedish movie (and book) A Man Called Ove.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Close every factory in China that are western companies and then let's see how the Chinese economy is doing.  Fuck China.

    And Apple products are no longer the tech darlings they were...they make tremendous profit exploiting workers where ever they can ... like most companies do who operate in countries like China. 
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    I will never shop at Walmart due to how they treat their employees and the hypocrisy of it all. But Target. Love me some Target. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited August 2019
    brianlux said:
    They may very well rule the world someday.  Very likely after I'm dead and gone.  It will be the west greed that will allow that to happen...

    Just like we allowed the world to boil.

    Fuck humans. Except for Tegan, Sara, Greta and Tom Hanks.
    The may gain the world, but not for long.  Like us, they will eat up the resources and will be left with a highly dysfunctional world that no one will want.

    Is Hanks doing good things these days?  Haven't heard much about him lately.
    He collects typewriters and is gonna star in the remake of the Swedish movie (and book) A Man Called Ove.


    That's kind of cool but I have been looking for a decent type writer-- a nice Smith Corona like the one Tom is holding would be lovely-- and yet I never can find one BECAUSE TOM HAS THEM ALL!!!  :lol:  Damn him!!!  :lol: 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Smellyman said:
    brianlux said:
    One of the big reasons China continues to flex it's muscles around various parts of the globe is because so many people continue to buy shit products made in China.  If you shop at Walmart or Target, you are supporting China's massive and highly corrupt economy.  Most of the crap those places sell is made in China.  You can't shop at those stores and say "I hate China" (or, for that matter, say you are worried about environmental issues) without being hypocritical. 
    People would have to give up their precious Apple products too.  They don't make just 'crap'.  They make everything.

    People love their 'things' though.


    An American friend of mine here in Taiwan is so happy that Trump has stopped China from taking over the South China Sea which Obama allowed them to do.  It's not true?  LOL
    Good point.  I needn't have generalized so. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    edited August 2019

    You people speaking so loudly about not buying chinese products, and not supporting walmart - 


    - do you buy meat from the US and Canada?


    USA gets a D from World Animal Protection for Animals used in farming:


    Canada gets a D :



    Compared to some European countries:

    Germany:

    France:
    Sweden:

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • There's a bit of anxiety here (me included) about China's increasing assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific.
    They are building military bases on islands not far from Australia, they are sailing close to our waters, they are spying on Australia-US war games held on Australian waters.
    I'm just worried about their intentions.
    China would never dare to attack a country in the Eurovision Song Contest. You are safe.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Time to close this thread...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    You people speaking so loudly about not buying chinese products, and not supporting walmart - 


    - do you buy meat from the US and Canada?


    USA gets a D from World Animal Protection for Animals used in farming:


    Canada gets a D :



    Compared to some European countries:

    Germany:

    France:
    Sweden:

    Another useless posting with no source info...

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Time to close this thread...
    why?
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    There's a bit of anxiety here (me included) about China's increasing assertiveness in the Asia-Pacific.
    They are building military bases on islands not far from Australia, they are sailing close to our waters, they are spying on Australia-US war games held on Australian waters.
    I'm just worried about their intentions.
    Looking around on the internet, I founds articles about this concern going back about 3 years.  That would surely cause some tensions.  Hopefully, China will find something better to do with their time and resources.  Does Australia have a surplus of resources?  That's usually what wars are about-- getting someone else's stuff.  Is that their motive? 

    I hope things cool down!
    We have iron ore, uranium, and uhhh....
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Time to close this thread...
    why?
    What does the US or Canada farming practices have to do with China or what is being discussed?   

    back on topic

    Ever since Canada arrested that Huawei crook China has stopped buying a lot of our products and are holding 2, maybe 3 Canadians as hostages and our wimp pm does fuck all.  Fuck China...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Time to close this thread...
    why?
    What does the US or Canada farming practices have to do with China or what is being discussed?   

    back on topic

    Ever since Canada arrested that Huawei crook China has stopped buying a lot of our products and are holding 2, maybe 3 Canadians as hostages and our wimp pm does fuck all.  Fuck China...
    Which has significantly affected farming, as the Chinese were major buyers of our canola crop, among others. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    edited August 2019

    You people speaking so loudly about not buying chinese products, and not supporting walmart - 


    - do you buy meat from the US and Canada?


    USA gets a D from World Animal Protection for Animals used in farming:


    Canada gets a D :



    Compared to some European countries:

    Germany:

    France:
    Sweden:

    Another useless posting with no source info...

    I posted the source in the post.

    But I guess you were so eager to jump on the bandwagon parroting the same shit to be a part of the clique - that you didn't even read?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379

    You people speaking so loudly about not buying chinese products, and not supporting walmart - 


    - do you buy meat from the US and Canada?


    USA gets a D from World Animal Protection for Animals used in farming:


    Canada gets a D :



    Compared to some European countries:

    Germany:

    France:
    Sweden:

    Another useless posting with no source info...

    I posted the source in the post.

    But I guess you were so eager to jump on the bandwagon parroting the same shit to be a part of the clique - that you didn't even read?
    SC, before you accuse him of parroting, why don't you double-check your sourcing. I'm not seeing any either. If two people regularly ask you for sources, is it possible that maybe you should just start offering them up-front?
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  • benjs said:

    You people speaking so loudly about not buying chinese products, and not supporting walmart - 


    - do you buy meat from the US and Canada?


    USA gets a D from World Animal Protection for Animals used in farming:


    Canada gets a D :



    Compared to some European countries:

    Germany:

    France:
    Sweden:

    Another useless posting with no source info...

    I posted the source in the post.

    But I guess you were so eager to jump on the bandwagon parroting the same shit to be a part of the clique - that you didn't even read?
    SC, before you accuse him of parroting, why don't you double-check your sourcing. I'm not seeing any either. If two people regularly ask you for sources, is it possible that maybe you should just start offering them up-front?

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited August 2019
    China may well be making a bid for global dominance.  Only question is will that country fall down dead of emphysema before or after the finish line.  They are the second most polluted country in the word next to Innnnndia-ah, (you're my love song).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    China may well be making a bid for global dominance.  Only question is will that country fall down dead of emphysema before or after the finish line.  They are the second most polluted country in the word next to Innnnndia-ah, (you're my love song).
    Their own people may turn against their government.
    I am sad to see they will probably take over control of Hong Kong.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014