The trial in Sweden of Trumps new token black friend ASAP Rocky

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
edited August 2019 in A Moving Train
Seems the Judge has decided that more days are needed for the trial:



ASAP Rocky, whose real name is Rakim Mayers, is accused of kicking, punching and slashing a 19-year-old man with a broken bottle during a fight in the capital. The 30-year-old rapper claims the alleged assault was self-defence, and if he walks free, he could win record-breaking damages from the Swedish state. 

ASAP Rocky may have to spend yet another weekend in Swedish custody, as his trial for assault in Stockholm District Court is running behind schedule. Crossexamination of the 19-year-old man, who claims he was assaulted by ASAP Rocky and his co-accused, is taking longer than expected and the judge has concluded that they will not be able to stick to Thursday's set schedule. This means the trial may not be over by tomorrow, leaving the US rapper languishing in jail until Monday when it would then continue.

ASAP Rocky will testify about bottle-fight
The US rapper will today tell his side of the story of what happened when he and a group of his friends encountered two young Afghan men in Stockholm, Sweden, on the 30th of June. The 30-year-old and two of his associates are accused of brutally assaulting one of the two men, leaving him bleeding on the ground outside a fast-food restaurant. The first day of the trial, which started on Tuesday, saw the 19-year-old alleged victim describe how he was thrown across a street, kicked, punched and slashed with a broken bottle.


https://www.expressen.se/noje/asap-rocky-tells-his-story-during-assault-trials-second-day/



Swedish criminalcase columnist Fredrik Sjöshult on the "hostage expert" Trump has sent to the trial:

Trump's envoy in the trial, hostage expert Robert O'Brien, has to be the most odd element seen in a Swedish trial. He answers no comments on questions today and it is probably wise. It's probably not easy for him to explain his presence unless he wants to say as it is: It's only poster politics because of Trump wanting to get African-American votes.

It has been claimed in foreign media that he fixed so that Mayer's mother was allowed to visit him in custody. Let me then point out that it is not uncommon for relatives to visit detained persons, unless it is cases with severe restrictions. 

When Robert O'Brien left the District Court for lunch, he received several questions from a Danish radio journalist: 
- Who is the worst hostage taker? Stefan Löfven or IS?
- Will you call in Navy Seals?

It was telling of the parodist circus nature that surrounds the trial.

"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
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  • Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Hahahah this isn’t priceless. Your first sentence defines exactly that you do.
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  • Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Hahahah this isn’t priceless. Your first sentence defines exactly that you do.
    Shouldn't it be "this is priceless" or "isn't this priceless?"

    And I do not agree. But that is okey. My point still stands.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Hahahah this isn’t priceless. Your first sentence defines exactly that you do.
    Shouldn't it be "this is priceless" or "isn't this priceless?"

    And I do not agree. But that is okey. My point still stands.
    It should. I’m really starting to hate the iPhone that changes misspelling and typos and even words and it does it after a period of time and not right away.  Damn it. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
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  • Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
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  • Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    Hey Trump's trying to help a black man unjustly held captive in a foreign country. He's a true diplomat that sees no color. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    Hey Trump's trying to help a black man unjustly held captive in a foreign country. He's a true diplomat that sees no color. 
    “Unjustly?” By who’s laws and standards? Sorry, but the Constitution doesn’t travel across the border and apply in other countries. Team Trump Treason didn’t know who asswipe was until Kayne had Kimmie whisper in his ear and stand in very close proximity. Let the Swedish justice system run its course.
     
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    edited August 2019
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    Hey Trump's trying to help a black man unjustly held captive in a foreign country. He's a true diplomat that sees no color. 
    “Unjustly?” By who’s laws and standards? Sorry, but the Constitution doesn’t travel across the border and apply in other countries. Team Trump Treason didn’t know who asswipe was until Kayne had Kimmie whisper in his ear and stand in very close proximity. Let the Swedish justice system run its course.
    Jeez and you said the other day that I can't grasp sarcasm? If saying "he's a true diplomat that sees not color" didn't tip you off, then nothing will. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    Hey Trump's trying to help a black man unjustly held captive in a foreign country. He's a true diplomat that sees no color. 
    “Unjustly?” By who’s laws and standards? Sorry, but the Constitution doesn’t travel across the border and apply in other countries. Team Trump Treason didn’t know who asswipe was until Kayne had Kimmie whisper in his ear and stand in very close proximity. Let the Swedish justice system run its course.
    Jeez and you said the other day that I can't grasp sarcasm? If saying "he's a true diplomat that sees not color" didn't tip you off, then nothing will. 
    My comment was directed at the larger argument that “if Sweden is so great, why are they holding him in jail until trial,” that was going around and around, with posts of prison menus and visitation rights. The bigger question is will Team Trump Treason bomb Italy to free the two white dudes arrested for stabbing a policeman to death?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    No need to carry water for Trump and his racism.
    Hey Trump's trying to help a black man unjustly held captive in a foreign country. He's a true diplomat that sees no color. 
    “Unjustly?” By who’s laws and standards? Sorry, but the Constitution doesn’t travel across the border and apply in other countries. Team Trump Treason didn’t know who asswipe was until Kayne had Kimmie whisper in his ear and stand in very close proximity. Let the Swedish justice system run its course.
    Jeez and you said the other day that I can't grasp sarcasm? If saying "he's a true diplomat that sees not color" didn't tip you off, then nothing will. 
    My comment was directed at the larger argument that “if Sweden is so great, why are they holding him in jail until trial,” that was going around and around, with posts of prison menus and visitation rights. The bigger question is will Team Trump Treason bomb Italy to free the two white dudes arrested for stabbing a policeman to death?
    No because he's a diplomat that sees no color! 
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    #freerocky #boycottsweden #wtf
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Token???? The American liberal politicians you admire would certainly call you racist for that! 
    You are skewing and distorting now just to skew and distort. Or you do not know of the expression, and then you should do a bit of googling me thinks.
    Oh I'm not calling you racist. But Warren, Brooker, Harris, and AOC sure would....me thinks. 
    No. they would not. They would call Trump a racist for having a token black guy as a friend to come off as not racist.
    Well sure they'd call him racist for anything and everything. 
    He is racist period !
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  • #freerocky #boycottsweden #wtf

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • - We have received a letter with strong wishes that there should be an alternative to detention for the three Americans. That they should be allowed to stay in a hotel, says Karin Rosander, communications director at the Prosecutor's Office, on Thursday.

    - We replied that it doesn't work that way in Sweden. In addition, it is the court that decides on the matter because prosecution has already been brought, she says.

    Expressen is seeking the US Embassy for comment.


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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
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  • I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Are the two guys in italy going to be asked to stay in a hotel by the US Embassy? Is it normal procedure?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) 
    https://youtu.be/Zr-u2cPJhYw
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    Next topic!
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Yikes. Even Limp Bizkit had more rap-cred than that. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
    If they were a black Swedish rapper involved in the same altercation as the American, they would have been shot by the victim or the police when they rolled up, most likely in the back by both. No need for jail, a hotel or trial.

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  • I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
    If they were a black Swedish rapper involved in the same altercation as the American, they would have been shot by the victim or the police when they rolled up, most likely in the back by both. No need for jail, a hotel or trial.

    And people on here would defend it "to own the swedes".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    No one cares about the rapper not even Orange Mussolini all he’s doing is trying to score points with the black voting block , if he saw him in the streets he would cross over to the otherside 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Own the Swedes? Who here really cares about the Swedes? It wouldn't be a thought in anyone's head if not for you.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
    But I would fully expect they make the call.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Are the two guys in italy going to be asked to stay in a hotel by the US Embassy? Is it normal procedure?
    Surely even the Swedes know the difference between a fight and murder? 
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