The trial in Sweden of Trumps new token black friend ASAP Rocky

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  • Posts: 31,467
    cincybearcat said:
    I’m not sure why:

    1) you are surprised that the US is concerned about the treatment of its citizens abroad
    2) you think #1 is a bad thing
    Are the two guys in italy going to be asked to stay in a hotel by the US Embassy? Is it normal procedure?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Next topic!
  • Posts: 16,993
    Yikes. Even Limp Bizkit had more rap-cred than that. 
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
    If they were a black Swedish rapper involved in the same altercation as the American, they would have been shot by the victim or the police when they rolled up, most likely in the back by both. No need for jail, a hotel or trial.

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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    If they were a black Swedish rapper involved in the same altercation as the American, they would have been shot by the victim or the police when they rolled up, most likely in the back by both. No need for jail, a hotel or trial.

    And people on here would defend it "to own the swedes".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    No one cares about the rapper not even Orange Mussolini all he’s doing is trying to score points with the black voting block , if he saw him in the streets he would cross over to the otherside 
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  • Posts: 16,993
    Own the Swedes? Who here really cares about the Swedes? It wouldn't be a thought in anyone's head if not for you.
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Well to play devil's advocate, if a Swedish rapper (if such a thing exists) was accused of an offense here in America, and the Swedish leader (president? prime minister? whatever they've got) called Trump and told him that the detainee should be put up in a hotel, I don't think Trump would be very welcoming of that. 
    But I would fully expect they make the call.

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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Are the two guys in italy going to be asked to stay in a hotel by the US Embassy? Is it normal procedure?
    Surely even the Swedes know the difference between a fight and murder? 
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    cincybearcat said:
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    But I would fully expect they make the call.
    Yeah I guess that's true. 
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    edited August 2019
    cincybearcat said:
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    Surely even the Swedes know the difference between a fight and murder? 
    So, you are saying it is normal for the US to ask for people who has been in "a fight" and standing trial in other democratic countries to stay in a hotel?
    Please point me to other instances of this.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Criminalcourt columnist FREDRIK SJÖSHULT:

    When it was Mayer's turn to talk about the evening before the district court, he described the situation as "scary." That is why Mayers wants to be released with reference to emergency protection.

    But it is doubtful if that is enough. Regardless of what the plaintiff had for the purpose of following Mayers from Max, the course of events on Apelbergsgatan a block away is what the prosecution is about:

     • Was it really necessary to keep hitting, kicking and stomping on the victim after being thrown to the ground? Was it "justified" by the three defendants? Or was it an assault at a stage of the event where emergency protection can no longer be claimed?

     • Is it really possible to claim emergency protection if you have a large adult bodyguard with you? During the interview, Mayers himself explained that the bodyguard's mission was to "protect him at all costs".

     • Can several men who are significantly larger than the plaintiff really claim emergency protection? It was a three to one situation (bodyguard excluded).
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    So, you are saying it is normal for the US to ask for people who has been in "a fight" and standing trial in other democratic countries to stay in a hotel?
    Please point me to other instances of this.
    I’ll have to look for another case where someone accused of a fight sat in jail for 3 weeks waiting to find out if he will sit in jail longer to face trial. 
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    edited August 2019
    cincybearcat said:
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    I’ll have to look for another case where someone accused of a fight sat in jail for 3 weeks waiting to find out if he will sit in jail longer to face trial. 
    Just look at people in your own jails then?


    And I wouldn't try to disparage the Swedish Justice System coming from the US. Haha!!

    Three (3) courts came to the conclusion there were probable grounds (highest level) of him being guilty of what he was accused of and therefore should not be let out due to flight risk.

    Stop trying to get a hit in on another - actually lawful - country when you are yourself drowning in shit.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Just look at people in your own jails then?


    And I wouldn't try to disparage the Swedish Justice System coming from the US. Haha!!

    Three (3) courts came to the conclusion there were probable grounds (highest level) of him being guilty of what he was accused of and therefore should not be let out due to flight risk.

    Stop trying to get a hit in on another - actually lawful - country when you are yourself drowning in shit.
    Only time I'm drowning in shit is when I come here.
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    cincybearcat said:
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    Only time I'm drowning in shit is when I come here.
    It reminds me of when we were young. Looking back at all the things we've done. You gotta keep on, keepin' on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    edited August 2019
    ASAP Rocky's lawyer Slobodan Jovicic proposes community service as a penalty.

     - I can imagine doing something like that on the weekends, ASAP Rocky replied.

    The prosecutor is proposing  six months in prison for ASAP Rocky.


    (Six months - the time spent in Häkte that is (like 4 weeks))



    From Aftonbladet:
    The prosecutor pointed to five recent court cases, which he believes can be compared to the case in question, and which resulted in six to eight months in prison.

    Therefore, in the case at hand, he felt that the sentence value was six months imprisonment. But he also admitted that there may have been a provocation in the picture and that it should be mitigating in the sentencing, even though it was not about emergency protection.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    “Unjustly?” By who’s laws and standards? Sorry, but the Constitution doesn’t travel across the border and apply in other countries. Team Trump Treason didn’t know who asswipe was until Kayne had Kimmie whisper in his ear and stand in very close proximity. Let the Swedish justice system run its course.
     
    Clearly it does not. 
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    pjhawks said:
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    Clearly it does not. 
    It actually does. It's running it's course just fine. 

    You focus on the one in the US instead. I've heard it's not in tip-top condition. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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