Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:

    You may get a lot of vacation days, but can you afford to travel the world while you’re off or just to stay at home on your couch?  I don’t mind working a lot of days if it means I can enjoy the fruits of my labor when I’m on vacation.


    We seem to travel the world more than you do - while not having an uniquely shitty health care system, but instead having one that all of the modern world has a variant off.

    Also look at your health care prices you ignorant little person:



    And look at you living  a bunch of years shorter:



    But being egoistic and selfish and not caring about other people I guess is the US most important trait. You are living the stereotype. 

    And yes, again - In sweden you can hunt, and own rifles - we have 70% forrest. 
    Well, with all due respect, that guess is wrong. You do not live in the USA so i don't think there is anyway you know about US people being selfish and not caring people. USA is usually one of, if not the most, giving Country in the world.
    Born and raised in the Heartland.
    Selfish, ignorant, idiotic, materialistic, shallow, stupid...yeah those stereotypes exist for a reason.
    For sure.
    collectively maybe. individually though......
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Sweden
    mickeyrat said:
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:

    You may get a lot of vacation days, but can you afford to travel the world while you’re off or just to stay at home on your couch?  I don’t mind working a lot of days if it means I can enjoy the fruits of my labor when I’m on vacation.


    We seem to travel the world more than you do - while not having an uniquely shitty health care system, but instead having one that all of the modern world has a variant off.

    Also look at your health care prices you ignorant little person:



    And look at you living  a bunch of years shorter:



    But being egoistic and selfish and not caring about other people I guess is the US most important trait. You are living the stereotype. 

    And yes, again - In sweden you can hunt, and own rifles - we have 70% forrest. 
    Well, with all due respect, that guess is wrong. You do not live in the USA so i don't think there is anyway you know about US people being selfish and not caring people. USA is usually one of, if not the most, giving Country in the world.
    Born and raised in the Heartland.
    Selfish, ignorant, idiotic, materialistic, shallow, stupid...yeah those stereotypes exist for a reason.
    For sure.
    collectively maybe. individually though......
    Of course, and those of us who are above average (just being a fan of good music like PJ puts us all above the average) insulate ourselves with other intelligent and caring people, but if you work with the public...
    Holy Moly there's too much stupid.  People are just...small.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    rgambs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:

    You may get a lot of vacation days, but can you afford to travel the world while you’re off or just to stay at home on your couch?  I don’t mind working a lot of days if it means I can enjoy the fruits of my labor when I’m on vacation.


    We seem to travel the world more than you do - while not having an uniquely shitty health care system, but instead having one that all of the modern world has a variant off.

    Also look at your health care prices you ignorant little person:



    And look at you living  a bunch of years shorter:



    But being egoistic and selfish and not caring about other people I guess is the US most important trait. You are living the stereotype. 

    And yes, again - In sweden you can hunt, and own rifles - we have 70% forrest. 
    Well, with all due respect, that guess is wrong. You do not live in the USA so i don't think there is anyway you know about US people being selfish and not caring people. USA is usually one of, if not the most, giving Country in the world.
    Born and raised in the Heartland.
    Selfish, ignorant, idiotic, materialistic, shallow, stupid...yeah those stereotypes exist for a reason.
    For sure.
    collectively maybe. individually though......
    Of course, and those of us who are above average (just being a fan of good music like PJ puts us all above the average) insulate ourselves with other intelligent and caring people, but if you work with the public...
    Holy Moly there's too much stupid.  People are just...small.
    being bombarded with images and messaging that says who and where you are in life is insufficient. buy xyz to make it better. takes its toll......
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    The Trial against ASAP starts in 2 min.




    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada


    US top diplomat and special envoy on hostage matters Robert C. O'Brien has been asked by President Donald Trump to go to Sweden as a result of the ASAP Rocky trial. 

    "He is here to look after the well-being of American citizens, which is always our highest priority," Ruth Newman, acting press speaker at the US embassy in Sweden, told TT.



    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227

    G-Eazy says Sweden treated him better than A$AP Rocky because of ‘white privilege’


    https://pagesix.com/2019/07/22/g-eazy-says-sweden-treated-him-better-than-aap-rocky-because-of-white-privilege/

    G-Eazy believes racism is behind A$AP Rocky‘s lengthy detainment in Sweden.

    “This is the sad truth … The difference between me and Rocky’s treatment in Sweden brings to mind two concepts that disgustingly go hand in hand: white privilege and systemic racism,” the “Me, Myself & I” rapper tweeted on Friday. “Let’s call it what it is. He should not be behind bars right now. My heart goes out to @asvpxrocky.”

    In May 2018, G-Eazy, 30, was arrested in Stockholm for assault and drug possession.

    He did not face jail time after lunging at security during an attack aimed at a fan and police finding him in possession of approximately 1.5 ounces of cocaine. Instead, he paid a $9,000 fine and restitution to the victim.

    Rocky has been detained for more than two weeks at the Kronoberg Detention Center in Stockholm, while prosecutors investigate a June 30 street fight involving Rocky, two members of his team, including his bodyguard.

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority announced Monday that all charges against one of Rocky’s alleged attackers had been dropped. The second man was never under investigation. Rocky and his team remain detained.

    Lead prosecutor Daniel Suneson said in a press release Friday that he filed an extension until July 25 to decide how to indict Rocky.

    President Donald Trump vowed over the weekend that the White House would intervene by having conversations with the Swedish Prime Minister. However, the Swedish Prosecution Authority previously told us it is “not possible for the US President to have any influence on the Swedish legal procedure.”
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    U.S.A.
    Assault and coke is a fine... yeah justice is blind. 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    Lessons Canada can learn from Sweden's long-term care facilities
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/lessons-canada-can-learn-from-sweden-s-long-term-care-facilities-1.5153673

    This is something that I would love to see in Canada.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    cutz said:

    G-Eazy says Sweden treated him better than A$AP Rocky because of ‘white privilege’


    https://pagesix.com/2019/07/22/g-eazy-says-sweden-treated-him-better-than-aap-rocky-because-of-white-privilege/

    G-Eazy believes racism is behind A$AP Rocky‘s lengthy detainment in Sweden.

    “This is the sad truth … The difference between me and Rocky’s treatment in Sweden brings to mind two concepts that disgustingly go hand in hand: white privilege and systemic racism,” the “Me, Myself & I” rapper tweeted on Friday. “Let’s call it what it is. He should not be behind bars right now. My heart goes out to @asvpxrocky.”

    In May 2018, G-Eazy, 30, was arrested in Stockholm for assault and drug possession.

    He did not face jail time after lunging at security during an attack aimed at a fan and police finding him in possession of approximately 1.5 ounces of cocaine. Instead, he paid a $9,000 fine and restitution to the victim.

    Rocky has been detained for more than two weeks at the Kronoberg Detention Center in Stockholm, while prosecutors investigate a June 30 street fight involving Rocky, two members of his team, including his bodyguard.

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority announced Monday that all charges against one of Rocky’s alleged attackers had been dropped. The second man was never under investigation. Rocky and his team remain detained.

    Lead prosecutor Daniel Suneson said in a press release Friday that he filed an extension until July 25 to decide how to indict Rocky.

    President Donald Trump vowed over the weekend that the White House would intervene by having conversations with the Swedish Prime Minister. However, the Swedish Prosecution Authority previously told us it is “not possible for the US President to have any influence on the Swedish legal procedure.”
    mrussel1 said:
    Assault and coke is a fine... yeah justice is blind. 
    G-Eazy and mrussel1 know shit of what they're talking about. He confessed on the spot and no 500 page investigation was needed to untangle what had happend. No bottle was used either. But keep jerking of ASAP Rocky for whatever reason. #freerocky

    Justice is A MILLION TIMES more blind in Sweden than in the US where Justice is raped. Justice is gone. Pulling your strings. Justice is done. if you can't see that or use common sense. That is on you.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    Meltdown99 said:
    Lessons Canada can learn from Sweden's long-term care facilities
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/lessons-canada-can-learn-from-sweden-s-long-term-care-facilities-1.5153673

    This is something that I would love to see in Canada.
    Hmm. Interesting. Never heard of anyone moving in with their spouse when needing to go to "a home". So I don't know how common it is in practice. I've only seen what they show in Canada, that they come and visit their spouse who live at a home. 

    Should also be said, that those kind of apartments built for the elderly. All I've ever heard about those solutions are that they are superexpensive and not an option for everyone.

    I would think our "elderly care" is good when compared to many other countries (And I bet Canadas is too) but there is not much else that gets so much criticism and it's always a talking point in political debates. And I've heard from people working in the field how stressful the work is and constant cut backs etc.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    U.S.A.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cutz said:

    G-Eazy says Sweden treated him better than A$AP Rocky because of ‘white privilege’


    https://pagesix.com/2019/07/22/g-eazy-says-sweden-treated-him-better-than-aap-rocky-because-of-white-privilege/

    G-Eazy believes racism is behind A$AP Rocky‘s lengthy detainment in Sweden.

    “This is the sad truth … The difference between me and Rocky’s treatment in Sweden brings to mind two concepts that disgustingly go hand in hand: white privilege and systemic racism,” the “Me, Myself & I” rapper tweeted on Friday. “Let’s call it what it is. He should not be behind bars right now. My heart goes out to @asvpxrocky.”

    In May 2018, G-Eazy, 30, was arrested in Stockholm for assault and drug possession.

    He did not face jail time after lunging at security during an attack aimed at a fan and police finding him in possession of approximately 1.5 ounces of cocaine. Instead, he paid a $9,000 fine and restitution to the victim.

    Rocky has been detained for more than two weeks at the Kronoberg Detention Center in Stockholm, while prosecutors investigate a June 30 street fight involving Rocky, two members of his team, including his bodyguard.

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority announced Monday that all charges against one of Rocky’s alleged attackers had been dropped. The second man was never under investigation. Rocky and his team remain detained.

    Lead prosecutor Daniel Suneson said in a press release Friday that he filed an extension until July 25 to decide how to indict Rocky.

    President Donald Trump vowed over the weekend that the White House would intervene by having conversations with the Swedish Prime Minister. However, the Swedish Prosecution Authority previously told us it is “not possible for the US President to have any influence on the Swedish legal procedure.”
    mrussel1 said:
    Assault and coke is a fine... yeah justice is blind. 
    G-Eazy and mrussel1 know shit of what they're talking about. He confessed on the spot and no 500 page investigation was needed to untangle what had happend. No bottle was used either. But keep jerking of ASAP Rocky for whatever reason. #freerocky

    Justice is A MILLION TIMES more blind in Sweden than in the US where Justice is raped. Justice is gone. Pulling your strings. Justice is done. if you can't see that or use common sense. That is on you.
    So Rocky is denying being involved in the altercation,  the one on tape.  Is that right? That's why he's been im jail for weeks? He decided that paying a roughly 9k fine is worse than weeks in jail. Correct?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cutz said:

    G-Eazy says Sweden treated him better than A$AP Rocky because of ‘white privilege’


    https://pagesix.com/2019/07/22/g-eazy-says-sweden-treated-him-better-than-aap-rocky-because-of-white-privilege/

    G-Eazy believes racism is behind A$AP Rocky‘s lengthy detainment in Sweden.

    “This is the sad truth … The difference between me and Rocky’s treatment in Sweden brings to mind two concepts that disgustingly go hand in hand: white privilege and systemic racism,” the “Me, Myself & I” rapper tweeted on Friday. “Let’s call it what it is. He should not be behind bars right now. My heart goes out to @asvpxrocky.”

    In May 2018, G-Eazy, 30, was arrested in Stockholm for assault and drug possession.

    He did not face jail time after lunging at security during an attack aimed at a fan and police finding him in possession of approximately 1.5 ounces of cocaine. Instead, he paid a $9,000 fine and restitution to the victim.

    Rocky has been detained for more than two weeks at the Kronoberg Detention Center in Stockholm, while prosecutors investigate a June 30 street fight involving Rocky, two members of his team, including his bodyguard.

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority announced Monday that all charges against one of Rocky’s alleged attackers had been dropped. The second man was never under investigation. Rocky and his team remain detained.

    Lead prosecutor Daniel Suneson said in a press release Friday that he filed an extension until July 25 to decide how to indict Rocky.

    President Donald Trump vowed over the weekend that the White House would intervene by having conversations with the Swedish Prime Minister. However, the Swedish Prosecution Authority previously told us it is “not possible for the US President to have any influence on the Swedish legal procedure.”
    mrussel1 said:
    Assault and coke is a fine... yeah justice is blind. 
    G-Eazy and mrussel1 know shit of what they're talking about. He confessed on the spot and no 500 page investigation was needed to untangle what had happend. No bottle was used either. But keep jerking of ASAP Rocky for whatever reason. #freerocky

    Justice is A MILLION TIMES more blind in Sweden than in the US where Justice is raped. Justice is gone. Pulling your strings. Justice is done. if you can't see that or use common sense. That is on you.
    So Rocky is denying being involved in the altercation,  the one on tape.  Is that right? That's why he's been im jail for weeks? He decided that paying a roughly 9k fine is worse than weeks in jail. Correct?
    He is saying he is innocent and it was self defense. The prosecutor said it was grave/gross/serious/ aggravated assault. Three (3) separate courts decided that it was on highest probably grounds within our system a case of Assault and he was a flight risk so that is why he has been in jail while the prosecutor was given time for the investigation (2+1 weeks). After the first 2 weeks the evidence was still strong enough against the suspect that the probably grounds criteria was upheld by three (3) courts when the prosecutor asked for one (1) more week. After that week it went to trial.



    Regarding G-Eazy:


    But Eric Bylander, professor of litigation at Uppsala University, says that there is no indication that the arrest of ASAP Rocky is about racism.

    - However, I am not surprised that it comes up. Issues of racism, especially in the police force, are enormously dominant there (in the USA).

    But here there are good reasons other than that it being a question of racism. It is a matter of how easy it is to conduct a preliminary investigation, says Eric Bylander. When G-Eazy was arrested last year, he admitted the crimes. ASAP Rocky has claimed emergency protection.

    These are some of the differences between the cases, Eric Bylander points out.

     - It seems to be involving more people in this case than in the former one.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    U.S.A.
    Oh so a Swedish professor declared it's not racism.  I didn't realize there was such unassailable evidence as a quote available.  Next time just quote yourself,  it's worth just as little. 
    Your unfettered nationalism is embarrassing.  At least those of us in the states recognize the imperfection of the execution of our system of government.  You're completely blind to yours. 

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    And for people still sticking to the TMZ-narrative of ASAP Rocky being followed and harassed for hours on hours while ASAP wanted to just look at the Swedish architecture and agriculture (like he claimed in the interrogation). Between the first incident at the fastfood place and the victim being attacked - I think the time elapsed was 5 minutes.

    And with this just-now released video you can see what ASAP Rockys bodyguard does that makes the victim and his friend come after and wanting them to pay for the headphones which broke:

    https://www.expressen.se/noje/osedda-bilderna-har-lyfter-livvakten-19-aringen/

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    Canada
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    U.S.A.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    My guess is your knowledge of the Swedish justice system is line with your knowledge of your tax code.  And all of those are just marginally better than your knowledge of anything about the States not associated with a movie. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    My guess is your knowledge of the Swedish justice system is line with your knowledge of your tax code.  And all of those are just marginally better than your knowledge of anything about the States not associated with a movie. 
    You sounds a bit snarky. No need for that. I just now updated you on the situation when being asked.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,449
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    My guess is your knowledge of the Swedish justice system is line with your knowledge of your tax code.  And all of those are just marginally better than your knowledge of anything about the States not associated with a movie. 
    And I do know of our "tax code". I doubt your knowledge though with your history of fudging numbers for shady arguments.

    Sweden has, as seen by most metrics for a successful society in this 36 page long thread a better tax system. Facts.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    My guess is your knowledge of the Swedish justice system is line with your knowledge of your tax code.  And all of those are just marginally better than your knowledge of anything about the States not associated with a movie. 
    Why engage this person at this point...the US could cure Cancer and AIDS and his reply would be negative.  Seems like a waste of time anymore.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    U.S.A.
    Meltdown99 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People defending ASAP Rocky with their TMZ "facts" and the US justice system, attacking Sweden and the handling of this: 0

    Swedens justice system, rule of law and actual facts: 1
    My guess is your knowledge of the Swedish justice system is line with your knowledge of your tax code.  And all of those are just marginally better than your knowledge of anything about the States not associated with a movie. 
    Why engage this person at this point...the US could cure Cancer and AIDS and his reply would be negative.  Seems like a waste of time anymore.
    For my own amusement mostly. 
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