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mrussel1 · July 2019

Did he throw a screwball? Man, I used to try those things when I was in high school. Friggin' hurts.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

mrussel1 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

I agree 100%.

My argument is that it would be a complete advantage to the hitter and the pitchers would get shafted again.

mfc2006 · July 2019

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

Completely agree.

mrussel1 · July 2019

Has anyone noticed that it seems like the replay rules have changed? I thought they were using the NFL standard of the call on teh field being clearly wrong. It seems like they are throwing out the call on the field, and making a standalone call based on the combination of angles and what they see to be the likely result.

F Me In The Brain · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

I agree 100%.

My argument is that it would be a complete advantage to the hitter and the pitchers would get shafted again.

While I agree and like the idea of keeping a human factor, how is the pitchers having to throw a strike to get a strike called a case of them getting shafted?

Some games I get very frustrated with some of these suck job umps. Most of them do a good job being consistent...and that is what you want/need.

Instead of getting computers they should just shitcan the morons who score poorly. (That fuck Joe West can go first. Angel Hernandez? See ya!)

This is like being president -- it should not be a job dominated by old people.

Quicker turnover on shit umps would be the way to improve the process, imo.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

I agree 100%.

My argument is that it would be a complete advantage to the hitter and the pitchers would get shafted again.

While I agree and like the idea of keeping a human factor, how is the pitchers having to throw a strike to get a strike called a case of them getting shafted?
Some games I get very frustrated with some of these suck job umps. Most of them do a good job being consistent...and that is what you want/need.
Instead of getting computers they should just shitcan the morons who score poorly. (That fuck Joe West can go first. Angel Hernandez? See ya!)
This is like being president -- it should not be a job dominated by old people.
Quicker turnover on shit umps would be the way to improve the process, imo.

Glad you asked.

Batters right now are trained to know where the strike zone is. The human factor widens that box a little so more guess work has to be done by the batter.

Take away that human factor and hitters no longer have to swing at close pitches because they know they are balls now.

When the batter knows that a strike is indeed a strike it will be like batting practice.

Horrible idea IMHO.

F Me In The Brain · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

No way. Part of pitching is understand where the strikes are going to be for the game. The interaction between the battery, the ump and the hitter are part of the art of the game. To take that away, takes away part of the humanity. I hate the idea right now.

I agree 100%.

My argument is that it would be a complete advantage to the hitter and the pitchers would get shafted again.

While I agree and like the idea of keeping a human factor, how is the pitchers having to throw a strike to get a strike called a case of them getting shafted?
Some games I get very frustrated with some of these suck job umps. Most of them do a good job being consistent...and that is what you want/need.
Instead of getting computers they should just shitcan the morons who score poorly. (That fuck Joe West can go first. Angel Hernandez? See ya!)
This is like being president -- it should not be a job dominated by old people.
Quicker turnover on shit umps would be the way to improve the process, imo.

Glad you asked.

Batters right now are trained to know where the strike zone is. The human factor widens that box a little so more guess work has to be done by the batter.

Take away that human factor and hitters no longer have to swing at close pitches because they know they are balls now.

When the batter knows that a strike is indeed a strike it will be like batting practice.

Horrible idea IMHO.

Interesting. Not certain I agree, but I do see the point.

Either way, we do agree that we do not need to have a computer calling balls and strikes.

I am OK with having one grade the Umps, though.

Get rid of West and Hernandez for starters!

HesCalledDyer · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

Nay.

1) The first thing that needs to be done is to ensure umpires understand what the strike zone is and have them call is correctly. Get rid of this bullshit of "getting the call if you hit your spot / not getting the call if you don't hit your spot / if it's a strike for one it's a strike for the other / if you pissed me off in a prior inning, I'm calling everything" and all these other dumb unwritten rules about umpires calling balls strikes and strikes balls. Call the fucking strike zone. Period. This MUST be the highest priority because:

http://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/mlb-umpires-strike-zone-accuracy

2) Joe West, Angel Hernandez, C.B. Bucknor, Bob Davidson need to be told to seek other employment.

3) Until something as fast & accurate as Hawk-Eye (tennis) is developed, I don't want a computer calling balls and strikes. And even then, I'd say let the ump call it and limit each batter to one challenge (maybe two) per game.

The Juggler · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

I miss the way baseball was back then

HesCalledDyer · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

A lot of people forget about Mike Scott. The last half of his career he was a beast. Cy Young winner, 3x All-Star, NLCS MVP (one of only 3 to win the LCS MVP in a losing effort), no-hitter, 20 game winner. All of that from 1985-1990.

mrussel1 · July 2019

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

I miss the way baseball was back then

Meh.. I do miss not having ridiculous sound effects on ESPN games, that's for sure. I like that I can watch the Tribe every day of the week from here in Virginia.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

A lot of people forget about Mike Scott. The last half of his career he was a beast. Cy Young winner, 3x All-Star, NLCS MVP (one of only 3 to win the LCS MVP in a losing effort), no-hitter, 20 game winner. All of that from 1985-1990.

I'm glad you remember him. If the Stros had any help those years they would have gone to the World series.

HesCalledDyer · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

A lot of people forget about Mike Scott. The last half of his career he was a beast. Cy Young winner, 3x All-Star, NLCS MVP (one of only 3 to win the LCS MVP in a losing effort), no-hitter, 20 game winner. All of that from 1985-1990.

I'm glad you remember him. If the Stros had any help those years they would have gone to the World series.

He often gets overlooked because he was only dominant for a very short period of time. But in that span, man was he good! The split-finger made him a completely different pitcher.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

A lot of people forget about Mike Scott. The last half of his career he was a beast. Cy Young winner, 3x All-Star, NLCS MVP (one of only 3 to win the LCS MVP in a losing effort), no-hitter, 20 game winner. All of that from 1985-1990.

I'm glad you remember him. If the Stros had any help those years they would have gone to the World series.

He often gets overlooked because he was only dominant for a very short period of time. But in that span, man was he good! The split-finger made him a completely different pitcher.

So did sand paper, lol!

Well supposedly. He never got caught but was accused.

mfc2006 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1152754212540952576/video/1

I used to be able to throw that. Last three finger grip and reverse rotation of a curve ball.

You want to see a pitch defy physics? This person obviously doesn't know who Mike Scott was.

https://youtu.be/B5OWjxtXx2w

https://youtu.be/6LG2iXbwS7o

I remember watching him pitch and was in awe. Ray Knight was arguing w the ump and was like "WTF pitch was that?!?"

A lot of people forget about Mike Scott. The last half of his career he was a beast. Cy Young winner, 3x All-Star, NLCS MVP (one of only 3 to win the LCS MVP in a losing effort), no-hitter, 20 game winner. All of that from 1985-1990.

I'm glad you remember him. If the Stros had any help those years they would have gone to the World series.

No doubt about it.

F Me In The Brain · July 2019

See if this video comes through...got in from an article in The Athletic, referencing Brandon Phillips.

The beat writer did not know that BP was playing in Mexico and commented on his spectacular plays and the fact that he just really loves baseball.

I loved BP when he was with the Reds. Loved. Such a good guy, he was awesome in person on a number of occasions over a number of years with my nephew as far as fan interaction went.

What a play - I miss seeing these a bunch of times a year. He really was special, defensively.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1152379448664231937

Ledbetterman10 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

So, computers calling balls and strikes?

Yay or nay?

That gets a big time "Yay" from me. I've seen it tested in the minor leagues and it works great. The umpire is still behind the plate, but he has a guy in his ear telling him if it was a ball or a strike. Then the ump signals like he always has so the fans and players know the call.

It just seems silly to have replay now, and nearly every base-stealing attempt gets reviewed, yet balls and strikes (which I'd wager a guess are harder to call than safe/out and fair/foul) are still be called by the umps. I've heard umps complain about the notion of balls and strikes being computerized. But that's evolution, baby. Many jobs have been replaced by machines/computers. Nobody's looking to axe the umps. In fact, this proposal is meant to help the umps.

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