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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    Haha. Not a good look for mr "15 bucks minimum wage"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,404
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

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  • Meltdown99
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    McDonald's should steal that line..." we are competitive with other fast-food restaurants"... Bernie Sanders like all politicians-"do as I say, not as I do".
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    I know, I picked up on that line too.  And the campaign manager is complaining that he already did his budget and made hiring decisions, so it's difficult to change that.  Well no shit.  Welcome to management.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    https://youtu.be/zc4uxJKSS7g
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,404
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an interesting read: Sanders' campaign is struggling with the union they created, because they're not being paid $15 per hour.  At the 60 hour weeks, it's closer to $13.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/labor-fight-roils-bernie-sanders-campaign-as-workers-demand-the-15-hourly-pay-the-candidate-has-proposed-for-employees-nationwide/2019/07/18/3a6df9f4-a966-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html?utm_term=.074e7d74da5d
    The Sanders campaign late Thursday issued a statement lauding its union contract. “We know our campaign offers wages and benefits competitive with other campaigns, as is shown by the latest fundraising reports,” Shakir said. “Every member of the campaign, from the candidate on down, joined this movement in order to defeat Donald Trump and transform America. Bernie Sanders is the most pro-worker and pro-labor candidate running for president. We have tremendous staff who are working hard. Bernie and I both strongly believe in the sanctity of the collective bargaining process and we will not deviate from our commitment to it.”


    Competitive with other campaigns...... GTFOH. Put up or shut up.......

    I know, I picked up on that line too.  And the campaign manager is complaining that he already did his budget and made hiring decisions, so it's difficult to change that.  Well no shit.  Welcome to management.  
    sooooo would this "manager" have a role in a sanders admin?
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    Bernie fighting back stating he is paying his staffers at least as much as part-time high school kids working at McDonalds.  A true man they of the people!

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited July 2019
    Jason P said:
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
    Jason P said:
    Bernie fighting back stating he is paying his staffers at least as much as part-time high school kids working at McDonalds.  A true man they of the people!

    man being cranky on a message board because he has problems accepting society evolves
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    Jason P said:
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
    Haha! I had a similar idea during the last election . Wanted to see candidates have an American Ninja Warrior experience! Great minds...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    Jason P said:
    Next debate needs all the candidates but using the WWE Royal Rumble format.  At some point Obama can run up to the edge of the stage and slide a folding chair to Biden when Harris has her they back turned.
    Haha! I had a similar idea during the last election . Wanted to see candidates have an American Ninja Warrior experience! Great minds...
    What's the story on the 'they' thing?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Oh, it's a city code thing..  pretty much a waste of time.  https://news.yahoo.com/berkeley-bans-gendered-words-manhole-195405363.html
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh, it's a city code thing..  pretty much a waste of time.  https://news.yahoo.com/berkeley-bans-gendered-words-manhole-195405363.html
    I liked brianlux's article(from the Outrage Culture thread), it had bear-like aliens posing as city council members. :smiley:

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh, it's a city code thing..  pretty much a waste of time.  https://news.yahoo.com/berkeley-bans-gendered-words-manhole-195405363.html
    I liked brianlux's article, it had bear-like aliens posing as city council members. :smiley:

    LOL, yeah, except that date is off by 10 years!

    Berkeley is such a strange place.  Back in the late 60's/ early 70's you literally could not walk down Telegraph Avenue without some really super spaced out dealer mumbling as you passed by, "grass, hash, LSD...grass, hash, LSD..."    It was that very environment in which the bear-like aliens had absolutely no problem integrating into society unnoticed. 
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  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    Yeah, I probably should've said fake article, but it ruins the fun for people who want to believe in bear-like aliens running the show. :heart:
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    Yeah, I probably should've said fake article, but it ruins the fun for people who want to believe in bear-like aliens running the show. :heart:
    Fake??  Fake you say?  Well I never!  (Well, OK, maybe once in a while  :lol: )
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden team confirms staff is at 15 plus an hour,  no union.  Declines to attack Bernie.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/454062-biden-says-he-supports-paying-campaign-staff-15-minimum-wage
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    Biden team confirms staff is at 15 plus an hour,  no union.  Declines to attack Bernie.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/454062-biden-says-he-supports-paying-campaign-staff-15-minimum-wage

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,861
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    dignin said:
    Lerxst1992 said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Warren tied with Sanders is scary. She is almost a guarantee to lose to Trump if she gets to the general. 


     
    Show me the evidence. That's not what the polling shows.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html




    Warren is +2.5 per RCP aggregate, which is almost 1 point worse than hillary was in their aggregate Nov 2016.

    Plus this current polling is with minimal attacks. Warren had no reply when Trump mocked her DNA test. Ramp up the attack machine and her numbers will decline.

    Plus, we nominate someone who wants to implement medicare for all, we lose.

    Warren should be smart enough to know that.

     

    Has she signed on to M4A?  I presume she has, as neither of them can let someone be on their left flank.


    "Look at the business model of an insurance company: it’s to bring as many dollars as they can in premiums, and pay out as few dollars as possible for your healthcare. That leaves families with rising premiums, rising copays, and fights with insurance companies to try to get the healthcare that their doctors say they and their children need. Medicare for All solves that problem. "


    Not that I disagree with that comment but I think it's a losing argument against Trump. Let ppl who want to keep their insurance keep it and those that want Medicare get Medicare. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ^Totally agree.  
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