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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility?  and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land.  Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
    To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives. 
    Why?  Does it bother you what your Europeans ancestors did to our 1st nation's people? does the destruction of the 1st nation's culture by your European ancestors both you?  How about the Euros who destroyed 1st nations hunting grounds and were on a mission to wipe out as many animals as possible???
    Don't do it man!  


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility?  and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land.  Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
    To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives. 
    look into the books I referenced if you havent already .  Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....

    I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
     
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility?  and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land.  Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
    To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives. 
    look into the books I referenced if you havent already .  Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....

    I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
     
    Are you talking about the Tommy Lee Jones directed movie?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility?  and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land.  Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
    To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives. 
    look into the books I referenced if you havent already .  Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....

    I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
     
    Are you talking about the Tommy Lee Jones directed movie?
    no. Read or listen to the book. by Dee Brown

     
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_My_Heart_at_Wounded_Knee

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
    published in swedish too.....


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    mickeyrat said:
    published in swedish too.....



    Im pretty sure that is the book Tommy Lee Jones adapted...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,648
    The Juggler said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden fired up right now on CNN. In Chicago and defending his record on many fronts. Sleepy Joe ain’t so sleepy.
    Wasnt sleepy in the debate either. This narrative being built up, in this thread and elsewehere, about his sleepyness is not factual. Folks.

    BIDEN 2020 
    I agree he never seemed sleepy. Isn't Trump the one who made that up on Twitter??? I can't believe it actually appears to have stuck with liberals. Wtf?
    he's not sleepy...he's just old.  the Dems have to do better than 76 year old Joe Biden and 77 year old Bernie Sanders.  If it makes me an ageist to say they are too old to be President...then call me an ageist.
    Biden seems pretty energetic and not at all slow or old in terms of how be behaves or processes information, no matter what his age is IMO. Same with Bernie. God knows both certainly come off as way less senile, old, and out of shape than Trump.
    Well...a few things:
    He stumbled over his words quite a few times and he had that deer in the headlights look when he was being attacked as if he somehow wasn't expecting it. He also answered "defeat Donald Trump" in response to what his first order of business would be after being sworn in.

    Old. Sleepy. Ill-prepared. However you want to put it: he was not good at all, especially in the second hour. 
    Hey, I'm not for Biden. I just don't think he seems sleepy and I don't think any of what's wrong with him is due to his age. I don't think he was any better than he is now 10 years ago, or 20, or 30.
    I am actually for Biden. But go back and watch some youtube clips of him in 07. Even '12. He was very different than how he appeared last night. More witty. Not stumbling over words. And he was also pretty damn funny. He didn't exhibit any of those traits last night. Again, I'm not saying it's totally his age, but he seemed like a different person last night compared to how he came off previously.

    This could just be him being unprepared. Or maybe he is not used to being the front runner. He's usually the one punching up like everyone was towards him last night. Either way, there's definitely a difference. 
    Perfect description of how I saw him ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited June 2019
    If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue?  Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:
    published in swedish too.....



    Im pretty sure that is the book Tommy Lee Jones adapted...
    very few books are adequately represented on film.

    for me hearing it read was highly impactful.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    edited June 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue?  Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
    And Sweden of the Saami. 

    Fuck western civilasations. In some regards. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,477
    Meltdown99 said:
    If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue?  Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
    like race. its a whole lot of fucking over to cop to. once you do THEN  you gotta do SOMETHING to make amends for it.... and of course there is listening closely to the experience of those affected which can be hard to do...


    INSTEAD
    we'll talk about shit the elicits an emotional response for shit that stands a snowballs chance in hell of passage much less benefiting in a meaningful way for most...

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    Marianne Williamson or Metal Gear Solid quiz:

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/is-this-quote-from-marianne-williamson-or-metal-gear-solid.html?utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    11 more debates, holy shit. That’s has to be a record, I read 6 in 2016 primary.

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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I want to know what Mr. Chaos was trying to imply with these Soviet Censorship photos??
    He said he was making a simple point.
    I'll just keep asking Mr.Chaos.
    So.after sevaral days of asking, and asking,,,,,No answer.
    Mr. Chaos must have been  f***** up, angry after the dems poor performance.  So I'll just let it go but it was is a simple example of what people like him are made out of.  Absolutely nothing..

  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I want to know what Mr. Chaos was trying to imply with these Soviet Censorship photos??
    He said he was making a simple point.
    I'll just keep asking Mr.Chaos.
    So.after sevaral days of asking, and asking,,,,,No answer.
    Mr. Chaos must have been  f***** up, angry after the dems poor performance.  So I'll just let it go but it was is a simple example of what people like him are made out of.  Absolutely nothing..

    Sounds like you need to hug your Trumpy Bear!
    It wasn’t even about you, and the image was about censorship and people ignoring others comments...I think.

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Meltdown99 said:
    If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue?  Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
    Australia too
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Smellyman said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue?  Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
    Australia too
    That is true, thanks for bringing that up.  I am sure there are other countries as well.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I want to know what Mr. Chaos was trying to imply with these Soviet Censorship photos??
    He said he was making a simple point.
    I'll just keep asking Mr.Chaos.
    After 2 days of asking, and No answer.
    Mr. Chaos must have been a little f***** up at the time of this posting of his.  I'll let it go but it was is a simple example of what people like him are made out of. Absolutely nothing.

  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    I finally caught up and it's good to see that things are proceeding as normal in the thread. 

    Trumpy Bear - :rofl:  -  I couldn't believe the first time I saw a commercial for it. 
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