They're going to ban Smartphone use at shows

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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    ikiT said:
    Those phones don't make you smart.
    And they take crappy images of concerts!!! ....
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,030
    PSUS2H said:
    I am probably reiterating something someone said earlier, but Jack White has people put them into a magnetically locked "Yonder" pouch.  Saw him in SF....no phones....it was the best....

    Yes yes yes!  You can scan your ticket on the way in, and lock it up and enjoy the show.    

    Hopefully this restriction is disclosed at the time of ticket purchase.

    I agree phones at shows can be very annoying. However, forfeiting non intrusive use all evening, plus additional lines to lock and unlock phones - in addition to lines for security, ticket scans, concessions and rest rooms is something I would dread just as much as intrusive phone use.

    Also its ironic how much some acts hate appearing on you tube. If they were less successful  their attitudes might be different. 
    Speking from limited experience, I can offer the following:

    The process of getting into the show (Jack White) was seemless.  You have to take you phone out to go through the metal detector...on the other side they have you put it into the yonder pouch and "lock" it.  The only hold up was when people balked....with that said, it was clear when you bought the tickets that it was a cell free enviornment.  On the way out there was a device that you set the pouch on, popped off the magnetic lock and were on your way.  If it added 20 seconds to my night I may be overstating it.  

    People were not dope-ily looking at their phones pre-show...they actually interacted, had conversations, drank beer...together.  A positive experience all the way around.  Btw, if you needed to make a call....you could go into an area in the foyer and unlock the phone.....but when you left they clicked it close again....
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Besides instances of a medical emergency or some kind of danger, no concert has ever been improved by security getting more involved.
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  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,388
    PSUS2H said:
    I am probably reiterating something someone said earlier, but Jack White has people put them into a magnetically locked "Yonder" pouch.  Saw him in SF....no phones....it was the best....

    Yes yes yes!  You can scan your ticket on the way in, and lock it up and enjoy the show.    

    Hopefully this restriction is disclosed at the time of ticket purchase.

    I agree phones at shows can be very annoying. However, forfeiting non intrusive use all evening, plus additional lines to lock and unlock phones - in addition to lines for security, ticket scans, concessions and rest rooms is something I would dread just as much as intrusive phone use.

    Also its ironic how much some acts hate appearing on you tube. If they were less successful  their attitudes might be different. 
    Speking from limited experience, I can offer the following:

    The process of getting into the show (Jack White) was seemless.  You have to take you phone out to go through the metal detector...on the other side they have you put it into the yonder pouch and "lock" it.  The only hold up was when people balked....with that said, it was clear when you bought the tickets that it was a cell free enviornment.  On the way out there was a device that you set the pouch on, popped off the magnetic lock and were on your way.  If it added 20 seconds to my night I may be overstating it.  

    People were not dope-ily looking at their phones pre-show...they actually interacted, had conversations, drank beer...together.  A positive experience all the way around.  Btw, if you needed to make a call....you could go into an area in the foyer and unlock the phone.....but when you left they clicked it close again....
    love love love it.  I saw Metallica at Jimmy Kimmel Live and this was one of the few instances they didnt use a video screen.  I literally could not see them on the stage due to the sea of cellphones.  Short people using them as periscopes was not helping.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Simple solution:  Line the theaters or stadiums with lead.  That will stop 'em!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • dr122931
    dr122931 Posts: 464
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dr122931 said:
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 
    At the end of the day, no matter how Jack or Maynard might spin it, it better serves the artist than the fans IMO.  I'm not saying no fans gain a benefit, but your comment is on point.  There are downsides to it.  But there are no downsides for the artist.  
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    The strangest part of the Jack White show to me was they old guy they had out front telling people to Bugger Off and Get off my lawn.
  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,030
    mrussel1 said:
    dr122931 said:
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 
    At the end of the day, no matter how Jack or Maynard might spin it, it better serves the artist than the fans IMO.  I'm not saying no fans gain a benefit, but your comment is on point.  There are downsides to it.  But there are no downsides for the artist.  
    Let me preface this by saying that I have two kids and I have totally been in the shoes (twice) of someone who needed to be attentive to my cell phone when it got down to the days before delivery.  With that said, I have a hard time using that somewhat rare occurrence (a pregnant spouse and tickets to show) to argue against a cell phone ban inside the venue.  It is a bit like everything today....we forego doing the democratic and right thing because a very small percentage of the populace may be inconvenienced.  

    It isn't people checking their phones for status updates on pregnancy, health issues or work concerns that has made this proposed action an interesting topic of discussion.  It has everything to do with people filming entire songs....or worse, periscoping the show in its' entirety, that has a lot of people happily acting like Luddites and wishing for a time (at least for a couple of hours) before cell phones.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Banning cell phones isn't going to stop annoying people from being annoying. Someone who doesn't have the courtesy or sense to turn their screen brightness down and hold the phone at a low angle that doesn't block the people behind them is unlikely to worry much about other aspects of concert etiquette.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    JimmyV said:
    Banning cell phones isn't going to stop annoying people from being annoying. Someone who doesn't have the courtesy or sense to turn their screen brightness down and hold the phone at a low angle that doesn't block the people behind them is unlikely to worry much about other aspects of concert etiquette.
    But 10,000 4-7" screens won't be glowing at peak brightness all night long.
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    Drunk people have annoyed me way more at concerts than cell phone users, but I don't see anyone clamoring to stop alcohol sales
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    annoying people at concerts really piss me off but usually i'm so high i forget to really care about them
  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,030
    Drunk people have annoyed me way more at concerts than cell phone users, but I don't see anyone clamoring to stop alcohol sales
    That is a true story.....the "fighting" their way to the front mentality despite showing up 45 minutes into the first set....the drunken chatter on how pissed they are that their boyfriend "looked at that girl"....the passing out and having to be handed over to security at the rail....the vomit...etc., etc., etc.......


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    PSUS2H said:
    I am probably reiterating something someone said earlier, but Jack White has people put them into a magnetically locked "Yonder" pouch.  Saw him in SF....no phones....it was the best....

    Yes yes yes!  You can scan your ticket on the way in, and lock it up and enjoy the show.    

    Hopefully this restriction is disclosed at the time of ticket purchase.

    I agree phones at shows can be very annoying. However, forfeiting non intrusive use all evening, plus additional lines to lock and unlock phones - in addition to lines for security, ticket scans, concessions and rest rooms is something I would dread just as much as intrusive phone use.

    Also its ironic how much some acts hate appearing on you tube. If they were less successful  their attitudes might be different. 
    Speking from limited experience, I can offer the following:

    The process of getting into the show (Jack White) was seemless.  You have to take you phone out to go through the metal detector...on the other side they have you put it into the yonder pouch and "lock" it.  The only hold up was when people balked....with that said, it was clear when you bought the tickets that it was a cell free enviornment.  On the way out there was a device that you set the pouch on, popped off the magnetic lock and were on your way.  If it added 20 seconds to my night I may be overstating it.  

    People were not dope-ily looking at their phones pre-show...they actually interacted, had conversations, drank beer...together.  A positive experience all the way around.  Btw, if you needed to make a call....you could go into an area in the foyer and unlock the phone.....but when you left they clicked it close again....


    Thanks for the info.  20 seconds is impressive.  Seems it takes forever to leave shows. They must have alot of stations to unlock?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Drunk people have annoyed me way more at concerts than cell phone users, but I don't see anyone clamoring to stop alcohol sales
    This. Maybe we should have breathalyzers administered at the screening point. I also hate loud talkers and constant talkers, so perhaps we could issue ball gags as well. Cell phones are about 5 down the list for me in terms of concert annoyances.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    JimmyV said:
    Banning cell phones isn't going to stop annoying people from being annoying. Someone who doesn't have the courtesy or sense to turn their screen brightness down and hold the phone at a low angle that doesn't block the people behind them is unlikely to worry much about other aspects of concert etiquette.


    Couldn't agree more. I almost got killed at PJ MSG 2003 bc the strong looking dude in front of me would not stop chatting with his date for the first half hour. When I begged they enjoy the band the guy was seriously gonna deck me. I pleaded "dude we both love PJ - let's rock out" He smiled and was courteous the rest of the show

    Same thing happened at Radiohead last year except the dude would ignore my begging and wouldn't shut up for a long time.

     At least if they have a phone there is a chance it could keep them quiet. 

    I just dont get those who go to shows to yap over the bands.
  • SJD3232
    SJD3232 Posts: 2,203
    people are the worst
  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,388
    I'm really surprised so many people are against this idea. It's great everyone has an opinion though! 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    ^ It takes an annoying situation ( rude cellphone use) and turns it into a potentially catastrophically horrible situation (family health issue unknown at time of purchase).

    I like Maynard's way of dealing with it.  Give everyone a song or two to snap pics then ban above the elbow use the rest of the show.

    Bands should required to offer refunds in the case of unknown health issues at time of purchase if they want to ban phones. Like that'll ever happen.