FENCE Responsibility

CROJAM95
CROJAM95 Posts: 10,832
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Bought a house 2 years ago, both sides wood fencing were on their last legs

few months ago i paid for the right side of my property to replace the fence ( finished side facing my neighbor)

Now the left side needs to be replaced, I have an ass living next door, the finished side faces me.......my new gate is compromised due to it falling apart
 Previous owners told me this guy would be responsible to replace it, and ive always heard the finished side faces the neighbor not responsible for it. Most people ive spoken to agree....but some say it depends where you live, I live in NY


any suggestions?


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    I woke up one day last year to the cockbag living to the north of me taking down the fence separating our properties.
    The finished side faced him....but come to find out, it was his fence.  (I assumed it was not based on the same logic as you)
    He never asked me, told me, anything...just saw a bunch of guys waling past my pool one morning to the back fence.
    I would like to say that I was nice about it....but I was not.

    Whomever put in the fence is responsible for it.  If the owner prior to him did, he is.  (My understanding)

    The fact that your gate is compromised likely does not compel the ass to fix his fence, though.

    On a similar note, the neighbor to the west of me just put in a new gate, and in doing so he reinforced the shitty gate post I had going on that side.  (The new post they added (he didn't have it fenced on his side) went right next to mine, which was leaning a bit) Thank you very much! 
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,364
    WWDD? What would Donald Do? Raise chaos and threaten to force your neighbor to pay for it to be done! Then blame Obama for the fence/gate being in disrepair. 

    Problem solved! 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,832
    im concerned about my dog mostly....the panels are loose …..its something that needs to get done regardless, just want whats fair

    I just feel hes gonna come up with a line of bullshit




  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    Nothing much can be done about shitty neighbors
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It depends where you live I would imagine.  My  Dad had part of a fence blow down and the neibhour did not offer any help or compensation...how would one know who put the fence up, unless the original owners are in the picture...in my Dad's case, the city by-law stated that the fence is the responsibility of both property owners...but in that case the city is powerless to do much, he was told its a civil matter...and fences are either dealt with cooperatively, one property owner grins and bears the full cost or seek a remedy through the courts...he just ate the cost himself...so I would check local by-laws.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    You and the adjoining neighbor either 
    A) split the cost of the fence.
    B) pay for it yourself.
    C) let it fall over and hope that your neighbor is tired of looking at it and buys a new one.

    Talk to your neighbor as you should both share the cost of a shared property line.  The old school fence could be alternating so that the cost shows that it is shared or you can go new school and purchase the vinyl fences where there is no coming or going on the fence.

    FYI I live on Long Island.

    Bonus info!

    You are responsible for a tree limb on your side of the property(unless it is known to be decaying then trunk side is responsible).  Doesn't matter if the trunk is on their side.  You have the right to trim that thing straight up your property line.  

    Extra Bonus info!!

    If you adjoin a commercial property the trees on your property can hang over 15' and not be touched buy the commercial owner.


  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You and the adjoining neighbor either 
    A) split the cost of the fence.
    B) pay for it yourself.
    C) let it fall over and hope that your neighbor is tired of looking at it and buys a new one.

    Talk to your neighbor as you should both share the cost of a shared property line.  The old school fence could be alternating so that the cost shows that it is shared or you can go new school and purchase the vinyl fences where there is no coming or going on the fence.

    FYI I live on Long Island.

    Bonus info!

    You are responsible for a tree limb on your side of the property(unless it is known to be decaying then trunk side is responsible).  Doesn't matter if the trunk is on their side.  You have the right to trim that thing straight up your property line.  

    Extra Bonus info!!

    If you adjoin a commercial property the trees on your property can hang over 15' and not be touched buy the commercial owner.


    In NJ if your tree falls into your neighbor's yard it is his problem.

    Messed up, but true!  (According to insurance adjuster a few years ago)
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    This is one of those things where there's the law, and then there's practicality. Check the laws in your local area, as it's possible that a municipal law supersedes a state one. It's good to know where things stand legally.

    Then you need to talk to your neighbour and hope they are reasonable about it. If it ends up being their legal responsibility and they still refuse, do you really want to get into one of those escalating situations where someone backs their truck over someone else's dog and it all ends up in court? You still have to live beside the guy. Just pay to get the fence replaced. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You and the adjoining neighbor either 
    A) split the cost of the fence.
    B) pay for it yourself.
    C) let it fall over and hope that your neighbor is tired of looking at it and buys a new one.

    Talk to your neighbor as you should both share the cost of a shared property line.  The old school fence could be alternating so that the cost shows that it is shared or you can go new school and purchase the vinyl fences where there is no coming or going on the fence.

    FYI I live on Long Island.

    Bonus info!

    You are responsible for a tree limb on your side of the property(unless it is known to be decaying then trunk side is responsible).  Doesn't matter if the trunk is on their side.  You have the right to trim that thing straight up your property line.  

    Extra Bonus info!!

    If you adjoin a commercial property the trees on your property can hang over 15' and not be touched buy the commercial owner.


    In NJ if your tree falls into your neighbor's yard it is his problem.

    Messed up, but true!  (According to insurance adjuster a few years ago)
    Same here as mentioned in Bonus info.  But, If the tree is decaying or rotting and you, the tree owner knew about it then you become liable for any damage.  I'm sure that is the same for you guys over there.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You and the adjoining neighbor either 
    A) split the cost of the fence.
    B) pay for it yourself.
    C) let it fall over and hope that your neighbor is tired of looking at it and buys a new one.

    Talk to your neighbor as you should both share the cost of a shared property line.  The old school fence could be alternating so that the cost shows that it is shared or you can go new school and purchase the vinyl fences where there is no coming or going on the fence.

    FYI I live on Long Island.

    Bonus info!

    You are responsible for a tree limb on your side of the property(unless it is known to be decaying then trunk side is responsible).  Doesn't matter if the trunk is on their side.  You have the right to trim that thing straight up your property line.  

    Extra Bonus info!!

    If you adjoin a commercial property the trees on your property can hang over 15' and not be touched buy the commercial owner.


    In NJ if your tree falls into your neighbor's yard it is his problem.

    Messed up, but true!  (According to insurance adjuster a few years ago)
    Same here as mentioned in Bonus info.  But, If the tree is decaying or rotting and you, the tree owner knew about it then you become liable for any damage.  I'm sure that is the same for you guys over there.
    Could be.  This was a windstorm, so even if it were rotting it still had a helping hand from mother nature.
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited May 2019
    OP, i had the same issue years ago after a storm knocked down all three parts of my backyard fence.  Don't give in if you know it’s not yours to fix.  

    I knew 100% that i didn't own that part of the fence.  When the crew came out to fix the parts i DID own the neighbors wife went psycho and turned into a crazy b*!$&.  Cussed out the crew and everyone around.  It was so bad the crew almost had to call the cops.  Having no dogs and no young kids at the time we let that fence stay collapsed for a year just to piss them off. The idiot neighbor decided to build a new fence next to it leaving the broken fence there for my view.   Didn't bother me because i was in the process of selling my house and getting out of that piece of shit neighborhood.  So his yard is now 1 foot less wide.  His wife is probably 1 foot wider though.   I laugh every time i drive by. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    cp3iverson said:
    OP, i had the same issue years ago after a storm knocked down all three parts of my backyard fence.  Don't give in if you know it’s not yours to fix.  

    I knew 100% that i didn't own that part of the fence.  When the crew came out to fix the parts i DID own the neighbors wife went psycho and turned into a crazy b*!$&.  Cussed out the crew and everyone around.  It was so bad the crew almost had to call the cops.  Having no dogs and no young kids at the time we let that fence stay collapsed for a year just to piss them off. The idiot neighbor decided to build a new fence next to it leaving the broken fence there for my view.   Didn't bother me because i was in the process of selling my house and getting out of that piece of shit neighborhood.  So his yard is now 1 foot less wide.  His wife is probably 1 foot wider though.   I laugh every time i drive by. 
    This story needs to be told in full as it sounds AWESOME!!!

    Why was she cursing?
    Why were you only fixing part of the fence?

    Please tell this in full!
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,832
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You and the adjoining neighbor either 
    A) split the cost of the fence.
    B) pay for it yourself.
    C) let it fall over and hope that your neighbor is tired of looking at it and buys a new one.

    Talk to your neighbor as you should both share the cost of a shared property line.  The old school fence could be alternating so that the cost shows that it is shared or you can go new school and purchase the vinyl fences where there is no coming or going on the fence.

    FYI I live on Long Island.

    Bonus info!

    You are responsible for a tree limb on your side of the property(unless it is known to be decaying then trunk side is responsible).  Doesn't matter if the trunk is on their side.  You have the right to trim that thing straight up your property line.  

    Extra Bonus info!!

    If you adjoin a commercial property the trees on your property can hang over 15' and not be touched buy the commercial owner.


    COOL....I live in East Northport, few houses from Northport Border

    Love it up here, this time of year especially. Lotta good golfing and water related fun

    I'll wait a few weeks and see if this guy approaches me.....he def saw a crew of guys doing the fence on the other side few months ago, hint hint......If I had to pay half, I wouldn't mind too much, its not that expensive and should last a while


  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited May 2019
    Allow me to direct you to this 7 year old thread that might shed some light:

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/128703/what-is-proper-fence-etiquette-with-your-neighbor/p1
    Post edited by The Juggler on
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    :lol:.   
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  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,557
     people don't like neighbors
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Malroth said:
     people don't like neighbors
    people don't like YOU.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,615
    I’d just replace it myself and avoid any issues with ass neighbors..
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    I read Juggs' other thread....and after that, I say go with Chadwick's suggestion.  Burn it down.
    (The neighbor's house)
    :lol:
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  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,557
    The Juggler said:
    Malroth said:
     people don't like neighbors
    people don't like YOU.


    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.

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