Australia's shock election results are drawing comparisons to Trump's 2016 win

Meltdown99 · May 2019

Australia's shock election results are drawing comparisons to Trump's 2016 win

https://www.businessinsider.com/australian-election-results-prime-minister-morrisons-shock-victory-results-2019-5?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

Must have been the Russians...

cincybearcat · May 2019

I guess if we keep ignoring the underlying factors....

brianlux · May 2019

Yeah, OK, but can he speak in tongues?

Meltdown99 · May 2019

Here is the thing...I was watching the news this morning and the news said he was in 3rd place and the winner was either going to be the labour party or some other party in which I cannot remember the name.

I would no longer believe the polls...really, can you honestly say you believe the polls when they say Trump has 37% or whatever he has...

brianlux · May 2019

Meltdown99 said:

Here is the thing...I was watching the news this morning and the news said he was in 3rd place and the winner was either going to be the labour party or some other party in which I cannot remember the name.

I would no longer believe the polls...really, can you honestly say you believe the polls when they say Trump has 37% or whatever he has...

No and somewhat. Any single poll will have biases. If you want to look a polls to get a basic idea of what the public thinks, it's better to use a site that consolidates poll and takes into account their biases and history (FiveThirtyEight.com seems to do a decent job that way). So overall, the polls give Trump a 42% approval rate which seems about right (and disturbing- 4 out of 10 approve of the man's job? Oh brother!)

So I read that Morrison is a Pentecostal. Does that mean that if he is indeed elected, will kids roll in the isles before each school day rather than pledge allegiance or whatever silly ritual Australians hold to?

cincybearcat · May 2019

Meltdown99 said:

Here is the thing...I was watching the news this morning and the news said he was in 3rd place and the winner was either going to be the labour party or some other party in which I cannot remember the name.

I would no longer believe the polls...really, can you honestly say you believe the polls when they say Trump has 37% or whatever he has...

Well if the reason people are voting is changing and you keep asking the same type of people you always asked in the past...

mickeyrat · May 2019

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Here is the thing...I was watching the news this morning and the news said he was in 3rd place and the winner was either going to be the labour party or some other party in which I cannot remember the name.

I would no longer believe the polls...really, can you honestly say you believe the polls when they say Trump has 37% or whatever he has...

Well if the reason people are voting is changing and you keep asking the same type of people you always asked in the past...

thats one of the things people dont often look at with polls. methodology, sample size, demographics, etc.....

THEN they claim it represents the entire country.

rhanishane · May 2019

climate change obviously not a concern wankers. Can see majority votes went to mining areas.

Thoughts_Arrive · May 2019

I am so so pissed off with my fellow Aussies for voting these assholes into power.

Here is a scathing attack on voters....

https://theqlder.com/2019/05/18/on-the-triumph-of-fear-loathing-and-selfishness/?fbclid=IwAR0phHFxrDfI7p6zj7ambPF_5BjcXW5d8vEpJOVH6CjnZ5XWfR2fo-gIQxs

Thoughts_Arrive · May 2019

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brianlux · May 2019

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I am so so pissed off with my fellow Aussies for voting these assholes into power.

Here is a scathing attack on voters....

https://theqlder.com/2019/05/18/on-the-triumph-of-fear-loathing-and-selfishness/?fbclid=IwAR0phHFxrDfI7p6zj7ambPF_5BjcXW5d8vEpJOVH6CjnZ5XWfR2fo-gIQxs

"...we sleepwalk into a world of chaos, death and destruction. "

Sounds like Australia royally fucked up. Kind of like another big country I know did a few years back.

What the hell is wrong with us first worlders? Can wait to burn the house down? WTF?

Meltdown99 · May 2019

Left-leaning government, the right-leaning government does not matter...neither will fix the environment. The environment is likely passed the state of no return...look at California, pretty damn left...

I believe these governments are coming to power because of citizens of those countries want migration to those countries curtailed of stopped...that is why the right is gaining popularity in Europe.

Thorns2010 · May 2019

Being an American living in Australia for the last 8 years all I can say is, WTF mate? You'd think my new home would recognize the mistakes of my old...but apparently not.

Discussing with my wife, who is a born and bred Aussie, the consensus we came up with is that the voters, in the end, looked out for their own interest. AKA Money. The Liberal party announced just before the election the federal budget. And in it they promised a tax rebate of up to about $1000 per person come tax time......but only if they were elected. They also proposed tax cuts, that wont happen until 2024.......but you know, tax cuts man!

Also with the political ads, Labour done messed up. Their adds only attacked the other party leadership issues, and the Prime Minster, but not any of their policies (which to be honest, Liberal has no polices of substance, other than tax cuts!!! (that will never happen)). Liberal on the other hand in their ads attacked Labour's policies directly. Even though they made shit up about said policies, they basically said if Labour wins, your taxes will go up.

So at the end of the day, too many people thought about what was best themselves, rather than looking at the bigger picture of what it means to live a society, and well, that's how we get here.

oftenreading · May 2019

Thorns2010 said:

Being an American living in Australia for the last 8 years all I can say is, WTF mate? You'd think my new home would recognize the mistakes of my old...but apparently not.

Discussing with my wife, who is a born and bred Aussie, the consensus we came up with is that the voters, in the end, looked out for their own interest. AKA Money. The Liberal party announced just before the election the federal budget. And in it they promised a tax rebate of up to about $1000 per person come tax time......but only if they were elected. They also proposed tax cuts, that wont happen until 2024.......but you know, tax cuts man!

Also with the political ads, Labour done messed up. Their adds only attacked the other party leadership issues, and the Prime Minster, but not any of their policies (which to be honest, Liberal has no polices of substance, other than tax cuts!!! (that will never happen)). Liberal on the other hand in their ads attacked Labour's policies directly. Even though they made shit up about said policies, they basically said if Labour wins, your taxes will go up.

So at the end of the day, too many people thought about what was best themselves, rather than looking at the bigger picture of what it means to live a society, and well, that's how we get here.

Yes, individual financial interest apparently trumps all. We see that on this forum all the time, and it’s representative of society at large.

For some reason we blame Millenials for being narcissistic, but clearly that applies to far more than just them, since they did not vote in these disastrous politicians and policies.

Thorns2010 · May 2019

oftenreading said:

Thorns2010 said:

Being an American living in Australia for the last 8 years all I can say is, WTF mate? You'd think my new home would recognize the mistakes of my old...but apparently not.

Discussing with my wife, who is a born and bred Aussie, the consensus we came up with is that the voters, in the end, looked out for their own interest. AKA Money. The Liberal party announced just before the election the federal budget. And in it they promised a tax rebate of up to about $1000 per person come tax time......but only if they were elected. They also proposed tax cuts, that wont happen until 2024.......but you know, tax cuts man!

Also with the political ads, Labour done messed up. Their adds only attacked the other party leadership issues, and the Prime Minster, but not any of their policies (which to be honest, Liberal has no polices of substance, other than tax cuts!!! (that will never happen)). Liberal on the other hand in their ads attacked Labour's policies directly. Even though they made shit up about said policies, they basically said if Labour wins, your taxes will go up.

So at the end of the day, too many people thought about what was best themselves, rather than looking at the bigger picture of what it means to live a society, and well, that's how we get here.

Yes, individual financial interest apparently trumps all. We see that on this forum all the time, and it’s representative of society at large.

For some reason we blame Millenials for being narcissistic, but clearly that applies to far more than just them, since they did not vote in these disastrous politicians and policies.

Well here in Australia, voting is mandatory for citizens, and I know of at least one Millennial who voted for ScoMo (yes, our Prime Minister has the creepy ass nickname of ScoMo for Scott Morrison).

And yes, I'm sure overall the break down of who Millennial's voted for would be the Green's or Labour, but I couldn't pass up the chance to make fun of the PM, as well as throw my step-daughter's boyfriend under the bus! Yeah he is a good kid, just so misguided in social concerns.

Thoughts_Arrive · May 2019

Thorns2010 said:

Being an American living in Australia for the last 8 years all I can say is, WTF mate? You'd think my new home would recognize the mistakes of my old...but apparently not.

Discussing with my wife, who is a born and bred Aussie, the consensus we came up with is that the voters, in the end, looked out for their own interest. AKA Money. The Liberal party announced just before the election the federal budget. And in it they promised a tax rebate of up to about $1000 per person come tax time......but only if they were elected. They also proposed tax cuts, that wont happen until 2024.......but you know, tax cuts man!

Also with the political ads, Labour done messed up. Their adds only attacked the other party leadership issues, and the Prime Minster, but not any of their policies (which to be honest, Liberal has no polices of substance, other than tax cuts!!! (that will never happen)). Liberal on the other hand in their ads attacked Labour's policies directly. Even though they made shit up about said policies, they basically said if Labour wins, your taxes will go up.

So at the end of the day, too many people thought about what was best themselves, rather than looking at the bigger picture of what it means to live a society, and well, that's how we get here.

Don't forget Clive Palmer buying the Liberal's their win with his ad campaign.
Greed wins, society suffers. Sad times.
I have never felt as depressed and outraged after an election.

Thoughts_Arrive · May 2019

oftenreading said:

Thorns2010 said:

Being an American living in Australia for the last 8 years all I can say is, WTF mate? You'd think my new home would recognize the mistakes of my old...but apparently not.

Discussing with my wife, who is a born and bred Aussie, the consensus we came up with is that the voters, in the end, looked out for their own interest. AKA Money. The Liberal party announced just before the election the federal budget. And in it they promised a tax rebate of up to about $1000 per person come tax time......but only if they were elected. They also proposed tax cuts, that wont happen until 2024.......but you know, tax cuts man!

Also with the political ads, Labour done messed up. Their adds only attacked the other party leadership issues, and the Prime Minster, but not any of their policies (which to be honest, Liberal has no polices of substance, other than tax cuts!!! (that will never happen)). Liberal on the other hand in their ads attacked Labour's policies directly. Even though they made shit up about said policies, they basically said if Labour wins, your taxes will go up.

So at the end of the day, too many people thought about what was best themselves, rather than looking at the bigger picture of what it means to live a society, and well, that's how we get here.

Yes, individual financial interest apparently trumps all. We see that on this forum all the time, and it’s representative of society at large.

For some reason we blame Millenials for being narcissistic, but clearly that applies to far more than just them, since they did not vote in these disastrous politicians and policies.

Greedy baby boomer retirees voted Liberal. Hands off my money they said, fuck the future of the planet they said.