The chorus in Bushleaguer is sadly wasted

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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I just don't like the tune.  There were other bands doing much better anti-President songs during that era (Linkin Park actually had a really well written record about the whole deal).  

    I was in NY for the blackout in 2003.  That was pretty badass.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
    Ed could just write all new lyrics to it if he wanted, keep everything the same, except the lyrics. Make them about Trump. That would be awesome. But he won't, lol.
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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ed could just write all new lyrics to it if he wanted, keep everything the same, except the lyrics. Make them about Trump. That would be awesome. But he won't, lol.
    Not sure he's mentioned his name from stage. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    DewieCox said:
    Bad song. Just so heavy handed. I do kinda dig the second, sorta atmospheric guitar and the acoustic break between verses.
    Yeah, the guitar part is cool.  I don't think of Bu$hleaguer so much as a bad song as I do a good statement.   That guitar part you refer to (I agree it's pretty cool) kind of serves as an interlude to a piece that seems purposely heavy handed and as oppressive and close as the air in an un-ventilated room on a hot day in the middle of July.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    cp3iverson said:
    Linkin Park actually had a really well written record
    I’ll take “Things That Never Happened” for $500, Alex.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
    edited May 2019
    NewJPage said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ed could just write all new lyrics to it if he wanted, keep everything the same, except the lyrics. Make them about Trump. That would be awesome. But he won't, lol.
    Not sure he's mentioned his name from stage. 
    Whose name? Trump's? Maybe not explicitly.... He seems scared to be political these days, which is a little surprising and sad.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    NewJPage said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ed could just write all new lyrics to it if he wanted, keep everything the same, except the lyrics. Make them about Trump. That would be awesome. But he won't, lol.
    Not sure he's mentioned his name from stage. 
    Whose name? Trump's? Maybe not explicitly.... He seems scared to be political these days, which is a little surprising and sad.
    Yeah, Ed's just a bench player in the political rock star game these days. He had to take his cues from Bruce last time he got political. So I don't expect anything original from him these days.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    edited May 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    NewJPage said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ed could just write all new lyrics to it if he wanted, keep everything the same, except the lyrics. Make them about Trump. That would be awesome. But he won't, lol.
    Not sure he's mentioned his name from stage. 
    Whose name? Trump's? Maybe not explicitly.... He seems scared to be political these days, which is a little surprising and sad.
    I don't if he's ever said his actual name, but he mentioned something like "our current president" or something like that, and he also said that Mind Your Manners was not about him in South America I believe, he's not worth mentioning in song or something of the like. 

    edit: not mind your manners, can't deny me
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  • TheLuckyOnes
    TheLuckyOnes Posts: 476
    Hi! said:
    ”the haves have not a fucking clue, but they got their tax cut” June 25 2003.
    I like that little change in the lyrics, lol.
    edit *haves not halves🥵
    Talk about still relevant.....

    I was at that show. That was also the show where he went on a rant about corporations buying up newspapers (lol those were the days), Miller Lite being piss beer, and Sheryl Crow music. 

    Agree with basic premise of this thread. Great chorus and pre-chorus, and good outro also. No, I don't think they should perform it ever again.
    Instead they should write some equally decent songs about our horrible present-day politics.

    Cheers
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    TheLuckyOnes said:
    Hi! said:
    ”the haves have not a fucking clue, but they got their tax cut” June 25 2003.
    I like that little change in the lyrics, lol.
    edit *haves not halves🥵
    Talk about still relevant.....

    I was at that show. That was also the show where he went on a rant about corporations buying up newspapers (lol those were the days), Miller Lite being piss beer, and Sheryl Crow music. 

    Agree with basic premise of this thread. Great chorus and pre-chorus, and good outro also. No, I don't think they should perform it ever again.
    Instead they should write some equally decent songs about our horrible present-day politics.

    Cheers
    Yeah, I thought I read somewhere about some drama around ticketing, he mentioned the first few rows the next night. I think it had to do with the advertisers getting tickets upfront. Not sure.  

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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,202
    Bush was more classically make-fun-able. Trump lampoons himself and is already a joke so the punchline is already taken. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    edited May 2019
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.

    Second, You don't need the pun in the title to be able to have baseball references
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited May 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.
    Uh, oh. The people of Latin America (understandably) might begin an uprising....
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,179
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.
    Uh, oh. The people of Latin America (understandably) might begin an uprising....
    And Japan.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    Oh, you have yourself a little "coalition of the willing" there. Haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited May 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.
    Uh, oh. The people of Latin America (understandably) might begin an uprising....
    And Japan.  
    Oh shit. How did I forget about Japan - and South Korea!?
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    In the end, I'm in agreement with those who who think the riffs are pretty cool, the lyrics are too much "on the nose," and the song is past its time. At least we have access to all those 2003 bootlegs!
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.

    Second, You don't need the pun in the title to be able to have baseball references
    The lyrical elements of the song do not work at all without the pun.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    edited May 2019
    PB11041 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    Do people really not know what the "Bush Leagues" are? Do they not get all the minor league baseball references?  

    You can't just change the lyrics and make it about anyone.  
    Baseball is played in like one (1) country in the world. So first, I don't see what would be surprising about people not knowing that.

    Second, You don't need the pun in the title to be able to have baseball references
    The lyrical elements of the song do not work at all without the pun.  
    The pun isn't even in the song, just the title. So you say the song doesn't work without the title? How many knew the title in 2003, when they played it touring an album that sold worst in their career?

    Please point out all the (baseball) references in the song being lost without the pun of the title? 

    "Born on third, thinks he got a triple" existed and worked before Pearl Jam used it in the song for Bush.

    If the song would have been called "Commander dumbass" instead the song lyrics wouldn't loose any meaning or power. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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