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Holy fuck, please tell me you don't really think they actually kill babies that have been delivered. Tell me you're not that susceptible to false propaganda. I mean, what do you have in mind here?? That they literally murder the baby? Like put it down like a dog, or ....??? Of course this is about whether or not they take measures to keep the baby alive or not, when it can't survive on its own, or when doing so would just prolong its suffering. Obviously they go about doing this whatever way is least traumatic. Of course sometimes it is far better to let the baby go than to take measures to keep it alive. That is how life is sometimes, unfortunately. How could you possibly be against this??RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
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what are they discussing? if they want to kill it or not? how is that done? slit the throat? pillow to the face? maybe hold it under water?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
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Clever? Wasn’t trying to be clever, he did it, and he was next to a dude in a KKK cloak hood thing. Does it bother you that he did that though?mrussel1 said:
Gov blackface...aren't you the clever one. Say it a third time, it might stick on twitter, Donald.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Lol, no, of course not! The dem party as a whole certainly doesn’t believe that, but I believe that that gross blackface governor stated it and believes it’s ok, and trump restated it. Read the quote then read trumps tweet, it’s pretty much spot on- even I’m surprised it isn’t embellished or made up knowing how Trumpjosevolution said:
So do you believe what the Orange Baffoon statedRoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
is, but it’s pretty much dead-on.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
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whatabouthillary? whataboutobama? whataboutjohnmccain? whataboutlove? whataboutbob?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
I don't know, whataboutism is pretty fucked up.
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Holy fuck, scroll up like two comments where I answered Jose’s question. No I don’t believe that. Holy fuck you cant read!PJ_Soul said:
Holy fuck, please tell me you don't really think they actually kill babies that have been delivered. Tell me you're not that susceptible to false propaganda. Of course this is about whether or not they take measures to keep the baby alive or not, when it can't survive on its own. Of course sometimes it is far better to let the baby go than to take measures.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Maybe read more about it then. The actual discussion is about how much treatment effort versus comfort care is done, for an infant that is going to die anyway. It’s disgusting to make it into something worse than that.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
You stated Trump's tweet is "spot on" and "not embellished" from the Governor's stance. which couldn't be further from the truth.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Holy fuck, scroll up like two comments where I answered Jose’s question. No I don’t believe that. Holy fuck you cant read!PJ_Soul said:
Holy fuck, please tell me you don't really think they actually kill babies that have been delivered. Tell me you're not that susceptible to false propaganda. Of course this is about whether or not they take measures to keep the baby alive or not, when it can't survive on its own. Of course sometimes it is far better to let the baby go than to take measures.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Well then wtf are you talking about? How is that quote you posted fucked up??RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Holy fuck, scroll up like two comments where I answered Jose’s question. No I don’t believe that. Holy fuck you cant read!PJ_Soul said:
Holy fuck, please tell me you don't really think they actually kill babies that have been delivered. Tell me you're not that susceptible to false propaganda. Of course this is about whether or not they take measures to keep the baby alive or not, when it can't survive on its own. Of course sometimes it is far better to let the baby go than to take measures.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
They’re discussing a subcommittee hearing fromHughFreakingDillon said:
what are they discussing? if they want to kill it or not? how is that done? slit the throat? pillow to the face? maybe hold it under water?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The only part of that quote about resuscitation comes right before “and then a discussion...” which reads to me like they resuscitate and then discuss if they want to kill it or not. Don’t think DNR was discussed anywhere in there that I saw.HughFreakingDillon said:
a DNR is a far cry from an execution.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
January 28... i don’t have time to get into it here if you don’t know where this all came from that’s on you, I have to get back to work. Here’s a little about that hearing though:
In early January, Delegate Kathy Tran, a Democratic member of the Virginia Assembly, introduced House Bill 2491, which would have lessened legal restrictions on second- and third-trimester abortions. Of particular note, the measure would have reduced from three to one the number of doctors required to certify that a third-trimester abortion was necessary to prevent a pregnant woman from dying or experiencing physical or mental harm, and it would have eliminated an existing requirement that such harm be certified as “substantial and irremediable.”During a 28 January Courts and Justice subcommittee hearing, Tran faced a series of questions from Republican subcommittee Chairman Todd Gilbert about the provisions of her bill and their potential implications. In one instance, Gilbert asked Tran whether her bill would, in theory, allow a doctor to certify that a woman’s mental health was at risk from continuing a pregnancy, even at the point where she was about to give birth, and whether House Bill 2491 would make it legally permissible to perform an abortion at that stage. Tran agreed that her bill would permit that
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFzZ5I30dg&time_continue=275
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Look, there is no such thing an abortion being performed on a live fetus when the mother is about to give birth. That is called CHILDBIRTH.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Watch the video. Go to 1:50. Then we’ll talk.PJ_Soul said:Look, there is no such thing an abortion being performed on a live fetus when the mother is about to give birth. That is called CHILDBIRTH.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Do I like it? No. He's actually my governor. But he apologized for it and has been a tireless advocate for the poor in this state for his whole career. He provided pediatric neurological care, free of charge, to underserved communities in this state. That's after being a military doctor. Considering the vast majority of the state's black community does not think he should resign (according to polling), along with the leaders in our community, I'm pretty much past it. I don't know why you're hanging onto it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Clever? Wasn’t trying to be clever, he did it, and he was next to a dude in a KKK cloak hood thing. Does it bother you that he did that though?mrussel1 said:
Gov blackface...aren't you the clever one. Say it a third time, it might stick on twitter, Donald.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Lol, no, of course not! The dem party as a whole certainly doesn’t believe that, but I believe that that gross blackface governor stated it and believes it’s ok, and trump restated it. Read the quote then read trumps tweet, it’s pretty much spot on- even I’m surprised it isn’t embellished or made up knowing how Trumpjosevolution said:
So do you believe what the Orange Baffoon statedRoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
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I watched it before I posted that. Doesn't matter what the video says. That DOES NOT HAPPEN. That was a lawyer talking, speaking about legal technicalities, not about medical realities. And that was abundantly clear in that video. Anti-abortionists WANT you to think that video means it happens, but it does not. Ever. It doesn't even make any sense that that would happen. Common sense dude.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Watch the video. Go to 1:50. Then we’ll talk.PJ_Soul said:Look, there is no such thing an abortion being performed on a live fetus when the mother is about to give birth. That is called CHILDBIRTH.
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so if you think that Trump's take is "spot on", that the baby is born and THEN they kill it, how are they killing it?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Watch the video. Go to 1:50. Then we’ll talk.PJ_Soul said:Look, there is no such thing an abortion being performed on a live fetus when the mother is about to give birth. That is called CHILDBIRTH.
no licensed physician who wants to practice medicine would ever "abort" a fetus while the mother is giving birth.
I do not, however, agree with aborting a fetus in the latter stages because of "mental harm". that opens way too many doors.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
does it bother you that Trump cozies up to white nationalists/nazis who are "very fine people", one of which ran a woman over and killed her?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Clever? Wasn’t trying to be clever, he did it, and he was next to a dude in a KKK cloak hood thing. Does it bother you that he did that though?mrussel1 said:
Gov blackface...aren't you the clever one. Say it a third time, it might stick on twitter, Donald.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Lol, no, of course not! The dem party as a whole certainly doesn’t believe that, but I believe that that gross blackface governor stated it and believes it’s ok, and trump restated it. Read the quote then read trumps tweet, it’s pretty much spot on- even I’m surprised it isn’t embellished or made up knowing how Trumpjosevolution said:
So do you believe what the Orange Baffoon statedRoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I don’t know, this quote from Gov blackface is pretty fucked up toAbe Froman said:
Trump says things like this and people actually defend this piece of shit. Its really sad.Spiritual_Chaos said:We should all be happy Mitt Romney didn't charge Trump, now when he's free of Mitts investigation he can really work for the people and go out in the bananarepublic for his great uplifting, and truthful speeches:
me!!
Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion …
is, but it’s pretty much dead-on.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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No, I agree that he was spot on as far as saying exactly what blackface said. I don’t think it happens, not sure the confusion here. Blackface was asked about what kathy Tran said, he confirmed that the bill was to include abortions of babies after they were born. Trump tweeted what he said. Do I think they are performing post birth abortions? No. Do I think that her testimony shows that they would be included in that bill (which was voted down)? Yes, that’s what she said.HughFreakingDillon said:
so if you think that Trump's take is "spot on", that the baby is born and THEN they kill it, how are they killing it?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Watch the video. Go to 1:50. Then we’ll talk.PJ_Soul said:Look, there is no such thing an abortion being performed on a live fetus when the mother is about to give birth. That is called CHILDBIRTH.
no licensed physician who wants to practice medicine would ever "abort" a fetus while the mother is giving birth.
I do not, however, agree with aborting a fetus in the latter stages because of "mental harm". that opens way too many doors.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
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