50 Greatest Grunge Albums. From Mudhoney to Mother Love Bone and beyond

demetrios
demetrios Posts: 98,327
edited April 2019 in The Porch




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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Only Ten and Vs?
    Puh-lease. 
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    I was wondering about that too... I love these lists but in the end they’re highly subjective 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,090
    edited April 2019
    I'd love just once for Nevermind to not be #1.
    They don't have to put PJ first, just not Nevermind for once.
    And I agree, just Ten and Vs. And how does Ultramega OK and Louder Than Love make it and not Down on The Upside?
    Live-Throwing Copper and Bush - 16 Stone should have been on there too. If you count Smashing Pumpkins ans grunge, then they definitely count.

    Is the description for VS accurate? Describing the inteded name as "Five Against One, which was both a line from their new song “Animal” and an admission that frontman Eddie Vedder was divided against his four bandmates and their manager Kelly Curtis." 
    I always thought the 5 against 1 was PJ vs the record company.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,017
    rummy said:
    Only Ten and Vs?
    Puh-lease. 
    Stylistically, I guess you can argue that Vitalogy was a departure from the "grunge" sound (whatever that hell that even was). 
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    rummy said:
    Only Ten and Vs?
    Puh-lease. 
    Stylistically, I guess you can argue that Vitalogy was a departure from the "grunge" sound (whatever that hell that even was). 
    Good point but I was surprised to see an album like Mellon Collie on there.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,445
    It’s a very Rolling stone type list. Obvious stuff is obvious, lots of dropped balls in rankings. 
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,398
    Terrible list. Hole at 4???  Really?!?  This made me wish I hadn’t wasted my time even looking at this stupid fucking list.   
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,902
    Pearl Jam the only ones of the big 4 to only have 2 albums in this list while the others have 3 or more
    I miss igotid88
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited April 2019
    ....at least they have two in the top 10??? Nah, not good enough for me either.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    I'd swap Superunknown & Badmotorfinger.  Hole at 4 is a joke.  I get Mudhoney's importance, I just don't know how anyone can listen to them.  And I agree with mace, just ONCE, Nevermind needs to not be #1.  It's not a bad list by any means, though. And Nevermind is still a really fucking good album, I will say that.
    Remember when MTV used to do those Top 100 videos of all time countdowns?  Jeremy was #1 for two years, then Cobain died and suddenly Teen Spirit took the top spot.  Don't get me wrong, both are great videos and you could argue either's case for #1 (at the time).  But it was just funny how Teen Spirit wasn't good enough (in MTV's eyes) to be #1 when he was alive, but it was after he died.
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    ^Same idea with In Utero. It initially had negative reviews from the mass media but they all seemed to flip their opinions once he died.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,090
    My favorite top video list was when they did top 10 live performance. Back when MTV actually stood for Music TeleVision they'd have different top 10 list every Friday for a couple of years, and when it was top 10 live performances it was always PJ and Young doing RITFW. Great video!
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,327

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,309
    not sure why when I was reading that it was in the voice of that guy from Behind The Music. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,309
    I recall Teen Spirit, at least where I was, and on much music, was bigger than Jeremy or anything PJ had done up to that point. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,309
    the Pumpkins are not grunge. never were. 
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I recall Teen Spirit, at least where I was, and on much music, was bigger than Jeremy or anything PJ had done up to that point. 
    It was indeed (at least in southern Ontario, too).
    I don't think any "grunge" song by anyone was ever bigger than Teen Spirit, however. 
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the Pumpkins are not grunge. never were. 
    The first two albums come "close" but definitely not afterwards. I think "Drown" being included on the Singles soundtrack created a stronger, even if imaginary, connection.
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    rummy said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the Pumpkins are not grunge. never were. 
    The first two albums come "close" but definitely not afterwards. I think "Drown" being included on the Singles soundtrack created a stronger, even if imaginary, connection.
    Might be their best song
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,445
    Do you guys consider "grunge" the music from seattle (from 88-95/6) or is Grunge more the American alternative rock sound from that same period. 


    I've always considered it the alternative rock sound until about 95-96ish. So Pumpkins were "grunge". Because PJ and Nirvana could be any more worlds apart in sound. So why wouldn't any other band from that era that wasn't from Seattle.



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