What happened to the guy who sued Ticketmaster???

darwinstheory · March 2019

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam. Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.

What if it was some kind of supergroup?

Perhaps. But definitely no Pearl Jam songs.

I think it's weird... that you have to go see Eddie solo for some Pearl Jam songs. Like, if I want to hear Thumbing my way live I need to go watch Eddie solo... Which I did, and I got to hear him play it. The same with Sometimes and Can't Keep. Pearl Jam "never" plays them, Eddie does....

Pearl Jam not really covering their catalogue of great songs and Eddie doing it solo... is really weird to me. With Eddie deciding the setlist too. it would be one thing if it was Mike who refused to play Thumbing my Way because he hates it or whatever.

Now it's more like Eddie keeps some songs for Pearl jam, and some songs for his solo career.

Now that would be a whole other can of worms. That would piss me off greatly!

texasistheSTEVEN · March 2019

This old doozy again.

Last time EV played London tickets were £95.00 Thats Ninety five pounds. Ninety five GBP. Not dollars, and the conversion into dollars does not work. Pearl jam tickets were £50.00 - £60.00. I go to gigs that cost anything from £5 - £30, expensive tickets in this city are £40.00-70.00. £80.00-£100.00 tickets are reserved for 3 hour shows by Elton John, Metallica, etc etc

I'm not surprised by ticket prices anymore and find it a shame that EV solo shows aren't priced at the very least, the same as Pearl Jam shows. I do understand the difference in venue capacity, production, staffing, etc before any economists decide to correct me.

my2hands · March 2019

I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol

Ledbetterman10 · March 2019

my2hands said:

I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol

I dunno. While I have no inclination to ever see an Eddie solo show (they seem boring), if people will pay that much, why not charge that much? It's a complete 180 degree switch from the mid-90's, but maybe he has realized how many millions of dollars he left on the table in the 90's with his "sponsored by no one" bullshit and now he's trying to get some back.

JimmyV · March 2019

my2hands said:

I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol

Will be interesting to see what happens if/when he tries playing the U.S. again. Expecting people to pay double for basically the same show many saw in 2011 and 2012 is a gamble.

HesCalledDyer · March 2019

I've never seen him solo and I wish he'd tour the god damn USA for a change. I wouldn't pay $100 to see many people, but I'd pay $165 to see Eddie solo. If that makes me an apologist, so be it. It's a show I want to see.

Spiritual_Chaos · March 2019

It would be one thing if he played small places. Than I would assume a price hike. But he plays really big places this time around.

JPPJ84 · March 2019

Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?! That’s all the two German venues hold for shows with seats only. Amsterdam and Dublin too from what I‘ve read here

Ledbetterman10 · March 2019

JPPJ84 said:

Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?!

Considering Eddie's solo act is tantamount to a guy in a bar with an acoustic guitar, I'd say 5,000 seat venues are gigantic.

JPPJ84 · March 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

JPPJ84 said:

Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?!

Considering Eddie's solo act is tantamount to a guy in a bar with an acoustic guitar, I'd say 5,000 seat venues are gigantic.

Fair enough

Bentleyspop · March 2019

HesCalledDyer said:

I've never seen him solo and I wish he'd tour the god damn USA for a change. I wouldn't pay $100 to see many people, but I'd pay $165 to see Eddie solo. If that makes me an apologist, so be it. It's a show I want to see.

I'm with you on this.
However not going to travel too far or spend a lot more to see him.
1 maybe 2 shows at those prices

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

you ask your worth. it's as simple as that.

I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value.

Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions.

Spiritual_Chaos · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

you ask your worth. it's as simple as that.

I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value.

Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions.

Quote from other thread:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Yes, of course. And this is why I on here - and elsewhere - have argued for a long time that Pearl Jam need to raise their ticket prices. Squeeze as much as they can from that first few rows - people will obviously pay for it. Fans thinking it costs too much - don't have to buy.

I also, for the sake of the band and their personal wealth, think they should ask another $10-15 for their t-shirts. Bands like e.g. Ghost and KISS ask for 40-50 for a t-shirt - and I for one think that Pearl Jam is leaving money on the table on their t-shirts -- and also other tour merch.

Please consider reading my op-ed on this subject @ gonnafleeceyoufuckernotgonnaloseyou.net

crookedcross · March 2019

JimmyV said:

my2hands said:

I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol

Will be interesting to see what happens if/when he tries playing the U.S. again. Expecting people to pay double for basically the same show many saw in 2011 and 2012 is a gamble.

It will probably still sell out or at least get close to that. The economy is too good. The same fanbase drops hundreds on the regular, and a lot of times even thousands on posters. I think most will complain about prices, but will buy the tickets anyway. I also think it takes out the gap for scalpers to make big money. Not the main goal of price hikes, but not a bad thing either.

PJ_Soul · March 2019

I don't know wtf shows some of you are seeing so that tickets regularly cost $150+ USD, and that you actually see that as a bargain, but that is not my experience at all. I get TONS of great concert tix for far less than that. Hell, I got Neil Young tickets for far less than that. And NIN. And Chris Cornell. And Ben Folds. And Tom Petty. And The National. Etc etc ... FFS, the only time I have EVER paid that much or more for a concert ticket is for Paul McCartney. Elton John tix are also that much... Eddie Vedder solo, as much as I love him, isn't anywhere close to that level, so I don't know why his tix are that pricey. I would expect EV's tix to start at maybe $60 USD, and go up to perhaps $150 USD only for the most expensive seats in the house. I have no problem with $150+ USD Eddie Vedder tickets as long as they are premium tickets. There should always be a good spread of prices IMO. I am super pro graduated pricing... But EV's top level pricing is WAY too high for his act. Did I see that it was over $300??? That is ridiculous to me. But hey, yeah, there are surprisingly people willing to pay that. There is no way in hell I would. To each their own I guess, but it really sucks that some fans are so willing to be suckered out of so much money, because it ruins the market for everyone.

But of course I agree nobody should be expecting low low ticket prices of yesterday. Even if it weren't for the suckers... inflation is real either way.

jeffbr · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

you ask your worth. it's as simple as that.

I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value.

Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions.

Completely agree, HFD. Now we may have differing opinions on "worth" and "value" but I completely agree that one can't hold Ed to past ticket prices. His worth to many people has increased along with his celebrity status. I, personally, find no value in that, and is partly why I wouldn't pay more than $35 to see him play old songs and cover songs, but if others think he's worth $150 a ticket or more, then I hope they are able to make it to shows, and enjoy themselves!

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

I didn't see anyone say it's a "bargain", or that people regularly pay that price for other shows, but if he commands those prices, which I suspect he will, then that's what he's worth, whether any individual believes it or not. no different than with vinyl. to some, a benny is worth $1300. to most, they wouldn't pay $300.

I would imagine the prices would be adjusted if/when he plays back in NA.

PJ_Soul · March 2019

Someone said it was well below market value = bargain. They said it because they think we should be looking at scalper prices as a measuring stick. And yes, others said that these are common price levels.

I don't blame Eddie. I blame the fans for these stupid prices. I wish people demanded better for themselves and everyone else. They won't. I just wish they would.

pjl44 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

I don't know wtf shows some of you are seeing so that tickets regularly cost $150+ USD, and that you actually see that as a bargain, but that is not my experience at all. I get TONS of great concert tix for far less than that. Hell, I got Neil Young tickets for far less than that. And NIN. And Chris Cornell. And Ben Folds. And Tom Petty. And The National. Etc etc ... FFS, the only time I have EVER paid that much or more for a concert ticket is for Paul McCartney. Elton John tix are also that much... Eddie Vedder solo, as much as I love him, isn't anywhere close to that level, so I don't know why his tix are that pricey. I would expect EV's tix to start at maybe $60 USD, and go up to perhaps $150 USD only for the most expensive seats in the house. I have no problem with $150+ USD Eddie Vedder tickets as long as they are premium tickets. There should always be a good spread of prices IMO. I am super pro graduated pricing... But EV's top level pricing is WAY too high for his act. Did I see that it was over $300??? That is ridiculous to me. But hey, yeah, there are surprisingly people willing to pay that. There is no way in hell I would. To each their own I guess, but it really sucks that some fans are so willing to be suckered out of so much money, because it ruins the market for everyone.
But of course I agree nobody should be expecting low low ticket prices of yesterday. Even if it weren't for the suckers... inflation is real either way.

No one is being suckered. People know the show, are seeing the price, and making their decision. $150 or so is too much for me, but I hold no ill will toward those who think it's worth it.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

Someone said it was well below market value = bargain. They said it because they think we should be looking at scalper prices as a measuring stick. And yes, others said that these are common price levels.
I don't blame Eddie. I blame the fans for these stupid prices. I wish people demanded better for themselves and everyone else. They won't. I just wish they would.

I wish I had the 1995 Spin Magazine interview in front of me because he had some quote in there about shuddering to think what it would be like to only play in front of people that could afford $80 tickets ($132 today). I'll have to check it out later when I get home and see if I got the quote right.

What happened to the guy who sued Ticketmaster???

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